[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#15446) undesirable rulers

["Daniel Markstedt" <himasaram@xxxxxxxx>]

<URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=15446 >


On 2006-02-11, at 08.50, Christian Knoke wrote:

>
> <URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=15446 >
>
> Jason Short wrote on Feb 10, 11:40 (-0800):
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>> My reasoning is that this has already been done with Stalin, and 
>> Hitler is
>> a very comparable figure.  If you argue that the Soviet Union is not 
>> the
>> same nation as Russia, then you can esily argue that the Nazi empire 
>> is
>> not the same nation as modern or turn-of-the-century Germany.
>
> If you want an Imperial Germany or a Nazi Germany (*shudder*) (which 
> makes a
> difference) as a historical (or fantasy?) nation for Freeciv, go on. 
> There
> is no reason or point to remove Hitler from the current nation, though,
> since he is quite important for the history of today's Germany.
>
> The same would probably apply to Stalin, being part of a historical 
> Soviet
> Union *and* of today's Russia as well. He's removed from Russia? Why?
>

Simply because we don't _have_ to have every single leader that made an 
impact on history in Freeciv. The Russian leader list already has a 
respectable number of names. In any case I believe it was Egor's choice 
not to include any 20th century leaders.

> '1991 Russia appeared on world map again', this sounds funny. Sounds 
> like,
> 'Soviet Union, CPSU, Gulag, never been'. If russian ruleset claims to 
> be
> medieval and modern as well, it probably cannot exclude soviet history.
>

Russia reappeared as a nominally Russian nation-state. IMO having a 
Soviet nation is not an attempt to "white wash" Russian history, but 
simply to allow playing with Soviet city list and flag.


-Daniel