[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#13845) Increasing the appeal of very large cities

["Peter Schaefer" <peter.schaefer@xxxxxxxxx>]

<URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=13845 >

adding a bonus from nowhere just means patching the game ..

I like the 2 pop per settler cost idea, it can be adapted to bigger cities:

currently the population of a city matches about the sum of food spent
in growing/foodboxsize,
or (size*(size+1))/2 
that is:
size food-spent pop
1     0              1'
2     1              3'
3     3              6'
4     6             10'
5    10            15'
6    15            21'

Now if a settler built did not use 1 size, but 5' pop, a city would
have to be size 3 to build one, and would lose two size, while a city
of size 5 would lose just one size.

This concept would eventually call for the abandonment of the food box
in favor of tracking the population directly, so that a city of size
21' would have 16' after building a settler.

Of course all this still doesn't make sense fully from the point of
view of pop yet, only from workers. Also, one would need a way to
disband a size 1 city.

Since expansion would be slower, for the game to be fun the food
use/pop(or pop/worker=cizy size) would have to be made smaller than
usually.


On 9/5/05, Antoine Bouchard <osyluth@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> <URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=13845 >
> 
> >The game-balance reason to fear adding to food is that you could get
> >runaway
> >population growth. If a city produces 80 food, an extra population point
> >produces 2 food, which produces an extra population point (in one turn
> >under
> >democracy), ... Under the default game settings, I've once or twice created
> >such a behemoth. With non-default rulesets, you could trigger this fairly
> >easily.
> >
> >-- Benoît
> >
> hmmmm... Never thought about these monsters. All i wanted to do is make the
> food requirement to increase pop drop (smoothly) toward 1, instead of
> staying at 2. I guess there should be a max of 1 food bonus per pop. Anyway,
> city growth is limited by the turns, not the food. I'll fix that...
> 
> Any thought on the 2 other bonuses? Are they out of place or not enough? In
> the default settings you need to be size 52 to get 100% bonus in trade and
> shield (nothing that would make a smallpoxer cry to injustice). I could
> split up the 3 bonus but that would get compicated for nothing.
> 
> Cheers,
> Antoine
> 
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