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To: Daniel Sjölie <deepone@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Freeciv-Dev <freeciv-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [Patch] New city dialog (8)
From: Mike Kaufman <mkaufman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 09:49:42 -0500

On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 02:44:10PM +0200, Daniel Sjölie wrote:
> On 2001-09-04 10:10:46, Christian Knoke wrote:
> > Am Dienstag,  4. September 2001 06:37 schrieb Daniel Sjölie:
> > > On 2001-09-03 14:41:08, Mike Kaufman wrote:
> > > > with Daniel's 'blessing', I've put a version 8 of the city dialog
> > > > patch in incoming/ on the ftp site.
> > > >
> > > > things todo: (at least on my todo list)
> > > >
> > > > o fix happiness so the citizen pixmaps get condensed.
> > > > o move enable tooltips to the misc. page.
> > >
> > > I still don't like that but if everyone else thinks this is a good
> > > idea I'll accept that...
> > >
> > > However, my thought with these tooltips were not that You would keep
> > > them enabled but rather that You'd enable them just to read them once
> > > when You needed to... I think they're a bit verbose to have on all
> > > the time, they certainly should default to off and the newbie who
> > > really needs them might not find them as easliy on the Misc page...
> > 
> > What about introducing a button "Dialog help" or "Worklist help"
> > instead. It references to a help system entry, which explains
> > everything?
> 
> Well, I think that's the same as is - only less convinient... :)
> But I'm not fanatic about this...
> 
> > Or even simplier, rename "Help on item" to "Help"
> > (I would suggest this anyway). If there is no item marked in the list
> > (at the beginning), it references to that (to be written) help text.
> > Just an idea ...
> 
> Mmm... Perhaps... :)

I don't like it on there. For everybody, but the first timers, and they become 
non-first-timers pretty fast, the checkbox is an eyesore. If that is the reason 
why that is there, then let's have an easily accessible part of the help menu 
devoted to issues just like this one. I know that if I were approaching this 
and couldn't figure it out right away, the mouse would drift over to the help 
menu. If an item like "Using Worklists" or "Using the interface" were on hand, 
I think that most newbies would find this.

The main reason that I wanted it in misc. was as a global city_dialog tooltips 
checkbox. (like it would toggle the granary tip too). however, this would 
require externs and such.
 
I can live with a help button. Daniel can you live with this? Do you want to 
tackle this one? 

> > > And, by the way again, did You get any errors about
> > > gtk_table_set_col_spacing now? Cause I can't see the difference from
> > > earlier when others got it and I didn't... I guess it's possible I
> > > made something stupid with the patch others had that problem with but
> > > I tested it on cvs myself...
> > 
> > I get this even twice now, on each opening of the dialog (line 592).
> 
> Well, that's logical since the info is now in two places...
> I'm at work now so I can't try this but I guess the fix must be
> -  gtk_table_set_col_spacing( GTK_TABLE(table), 1, 5 );
> +  gtk_table_set_col_spacing( GTK_TABLE(table), 0, 5 );
> 
> Strange that I don't get any errors though...

I don't get any errors either. Christian, can you change that line in 
citydlg.c, recompile, and see if that fixes it?

Also, what gtk version have you got?

> 
> /Daniel
> 
> -- 
> Now take a deep breath, smile and don't take life so seriously... :)


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