[aclug-L] Re: Cool new fan site....hehe

["Jeffrey L. Hansen" <jlhansen@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Indeed.  I guess learning LINUX is supposed to be a full time job.  I'm
sorry but I already have one.  It's funny that Windows of any flavor
wasn't so time intensive.  I think I'm probably the type of member that
ACLUG doesn't need.  I wanted to learn LINUX to open a development
platform that wouldn't be so GUI dependant and that I could possibly use
for some of the control jobs around here.  Since I'll have to devote a
second lifetime to learning the nuances of the environment without the
benefit of the experience of those around who might have made my future
mistakes, I'll have to pass.  Thanks for straightening out my thinking on
that subject.


On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Carl D Cravens wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
> 
> > This one brings up an interesting point that keeps stunting my LINUX
> > growth.  The "RTFM" anthem, while nice for a good giggle among the
> > knowing, is frustrating beyond comprehension to the poor guy who asks the
> > "well documented" question.  I don't have the time to RTFM and was hoping
> > to maybe get the basics of the operating system from those who are more
> > blessed with time to dedicate to computers.  
> 
> If you don't have time to RTFM, you don't have time to learn the details
> of Linux.  RTFM isn't for "a good giggle among the knowing"... it's the
> key to learning.  Excuse me for being blunt, but that's just the way it
> is.  A user group isn't there to hold your hand through every operation...
> it's there to get you pointed in the right direction and help out when you
> get stuck.  And getting you pointed in the right direction is telling you
> to RTFM if you haven't done so already.
> 
> Imagine that you're taking a college course and in the middle of lecture
> you ask the professor to explain what it is he's talking about.  He
> replies that it's in the reading.  You explain that you don't have the
> time to read the book, so you'd appreciate it if he'd kindly explain just
> enough of it to you that you can squeek by without reading the book.  
> 
> What's your professor going to do?  He's going to tell you to read the
> assignment, that he doesn't have time to help you if you aren't willing to
> help yourself.  And this guy's getting *paid* to teach you.  The guys in
> the user group aren't. 
> 
> If you haven't got the time to help yourself, why should anybody else take
> the time to help you?
> 
> I'm really sorry to sound like an a-hole, but that's the bare truth of
> it.  You get out of it what you put into it.  If you insist on making
> volunteers do the work for you, you're just going to drag them down and
> burn them out that much faster.  
> 
> > incomprehensible to me from the start.  I'm about to give Solaris a try
> > just to see if that's any better.
> 
> It won't be.  Unix is Unix, regardless of the flavor, and it has a steep
> learning curve.  
> 
> --
> Carl D Cravens (raven@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> Madness takes its toll...please have exact change.
> 
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