[linux-help] Re: How to get started on Linux (was : help installing programs)

["The PC-Zone" <pczone@xxxxxxxxxx>]

k, after reading all emails, and kicking the other tech out of the way, I am
going to try and find the proper RPM qmail to use.  I have included with
this email what was happening when I tried to use the RPM's I down loaded
off of the qmail site.  I do not beleive that this will help the situation
much since they are not the files recommended


----- Original Message -----
From: "Koji Hayakawa" <sylf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <linux-help@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 11:48 AM
Subject: [linux-help] How to get started on Linux (was : help installing
programs)


>
> Business before pleasure?  Yes, it sure applies to Linux.  A lot of Linux
> (and Unix) applications are written with functionality and security as the
> top priority.  User friendliness comes second hand.
>
> As an application matures, finally people will start writing documents on
> them.  People have taken their own time to write these documents for you
to
> read.  If you are not willing to go find and read these documents, then
you
> won't be able to survive in Linux world very well.  If you can only find
> source-code distribution of a particular software, then you have to learn
> how to compile and install stuch package.  And printed books would be the
> best source of help for that, if you don't know how to find help on line.
> That's why I suggested a few books in my reply.
>
> Back to qmail, though.
>
> I believe the package you grabbed (I'm not sure exactly which file you
> grabbed, since you only listed URL that lists the directory content) is
not
> exactly what you want.  If you go to their main site
> (http://www.qmail.org/top.html), toward the top, it has link to RedHat RPM
> (http://www.qmail.org/rpms/).  Since you are running RedHat 7.3, you will
> want to grab the file named rpm-4.0.4-7x.i386.rpm.
>
> Once you grab the new file, go read how to use RPM in printed book.  I
can't
> tell you exactly what to do with RPM, since I don't use it everyday.  You
> can try this for a starter though:
>
> 1.  Open an console window (command prompt)
> 2.  switch directory to where you saved the downloaded RPM file
> 3.  Issue this command
>        rpm --install rpm-4.0.4-7x.i386.rpm
> 4.  Hopefully it'll install the software for you.
> 5.  It may tell you that you are missing dependent rpm modules.  If that's
> the case, refer to the book of your choice how to handle them.  If you
just
> want to find certain RPM, then good site is RPM repository at
> http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/
>
>
> And once again, do read all the documents provided.  Qmail has this nice
> documents page:  http://www.qmail.org/man/index.html.  Start with README,
> FAQ, and INSTALL.  The rest is up to you.
>
> Oh, and make sure to learn to use a text editor.  Pico is a nice and easy
> software, but I believe RedHat doesn't install it by default.  vi and
emacs
> comes to top of people's head, but they sure aren't easiest text editors
on
> the face of this planet.  Books, again, will help you get started on this.
> The reason you want to learn these text editor is, because, in many cases,
> Linux lacks point-and-click environment for system configurations and
> software configurations.  RedHat does pretty good job of implimenting
system
> config in GUI, but I'm not sure abuot qmail.
>
> Good luck to ya....
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of The PC-Zone
> > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 10:43 AM
> > To: linux-help@xxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: sylf@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [linux-help] Re: help installing programs
> >
> >
> >
> > I would love to drop qmail, but less then 20 days ago Linux was dumped
on
> > me, I have over ten years of experience in Microsoft Windows NT.  I
> > understand how Microsoft works, and how everything runs in Microsoft.
Now
> > Linux is a new experience for me, just like I am sure at one time
> > you where
> > new to the Linux inviroment.  Unlike you I do not have a good
> > understanding
> > of how things work in the Linux inviroment.  I have a good feel on how
to
> > navigate around Linux, but not to install programs.  So before
> > you tell some
> > one where to go think back to when you first started.  So unlike
> > you, I have
> > not got the experience on Linux.  All I ever here is about how good
Linux
> > is, and how I should learn about Linux.  From what I have
> > expereince in the
> > past 20 days is that Linux, and the poeple using it perfer to keep the
> > secret on how to use the program to them self.  I have tried Red Hat for
> > support, I have tried these E-mail help Places, I have Asked
> > poeple, who use
> > Linux, and all I have been getting is frustrated.  I have even offered
my
> > toll free number to any one that could call, and explain a little about
> > linux, and I got no response.  Is Linux some sort of secret program,
that
> > only a few certain poeple hold the knoledge, and the others are
> > left out?  I
> > have come to the conculsion the reason Linux is not as Popular as
> > Microsoft
> > Products is that no one is willing to help, and have patients for some
one
> > who gets dumped into a new inviroment, tring to meet deadlines, and is
> > realizing that the more he ask the less he understands.  To
> > conculd, I would
> > like to say thank you for what little help I got, and appriciate
> > the little
> > help a few of you where able to provide to me.
> >
> > Justin
> > 866-327-6644
>
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