[linux-help] Re: help installing programs

["The PC-Zone" <pczone@xxxxxxxxxx>]

I would love to drop qmail, but less then 20 days ago Linux was dumped on
me, I have over ten years of experience in Microsoft Windows NT.  I
understand how Microsoft works, and how everything runs in Microsoft.  Now
Linux is a new experience for me, just like I am sure at one time you where
new to the Linux inviroment.  Unlike you I do not have a good understanding
of how things work in the Linux inviroment.  I have a good feel on how to
navigate around Linux, but not to install programs.  So before you tell some
one where to go think back to when you first started.  So unlike you, I have
not got the experience on Linux.  All I ever here is about how good Linux
is, and how I should learn about Linux.  From what I have expereince in the
past 20 days is that Linux, and the poeple using it perfer to keep the
secret on how to use the program to them self.  I have tried Red Hat for
support, I have tried these E-mail help Places, I have Asked poeple, who use
Linux, and all I have been getting is frustrated.  I have even offered my
toll free number to any one that could call, and explain a little about
linux, and I got no response.  Is Linux some sort of secret program, that
only a few certain poeple hold the knoledge, and the others are left out?  I
have come to the conculsion the reason Linux is not as Popular as Microsoft
Products is that no one is willing to help, and have patients for some one
who gets dumped into a new inviroment, tring to meet deadlines, and is
realizing that the more he ask the less he understands.  To conculd, I would
like to say thank you for what little help I got, and appriciate the little
help a few of you where able to provide to me.

Justin
866-327-6644
----- Original Message -----
From: "Koji Hayakawa" <sylf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <linux-help@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:00 AM
Subject: [linux-help] Re: help installing programs


>
> I would suggest you drop qmail for a while, then.  Go read more about
Linux
> in general.  Go buy a book on Linux.  Buy any book like Linux for dummies
or
> Beginning Linux or Teach Yourself Linux in 24 hours or whatever.  Just
spend
> some time reading these books, and try what the book suggest you to try.
> The hands-on experience will teach you.  And if you don't understand
what's
> going on in the book then come back to this mailing list and ask
questions.
>
> Also, try finding documents in http://www.linug.org and
http://www.tldp.org.
>
> I believe entry level Linux courses are waiste of money and time.
>
> Get comfortable how to get around the system.  Get used to command lines.
> Learn to read on-line manual pages (man command).  They will benefit you,
if
> you want to learn Linux.
>
> ***********************
>
> Back to couple lines of your reply....
>
> "Whatever RPM program came with Red Hat 7.3" won't tell us anything.  As
far
> as I know, it loads the command line RPM program, Gnome version of RPM
> manager, and KDE's RPM manager.
>
> And FYI, "KDE Version of Linux" is not proper way to express a version of
> Linux.  KDE is what's so called "Desktop Environment."  It can run any
> version of Linux running X Windows.  It actually runs on any Unix or
Linux.
> So in your case, you are using "Red Hat Linux 7.3, running KDE."
>
> ***********************
>
> Not to be rude, but let me end the note with this quote from certain Linux
> User Group's Mailing List FAQ:
>
> Q: I want to post a question.
> A:  First of all, read this wonderful resource. How To Ask Questions The
> Smart Way (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html). In
short,
> if you're posting a question, try to do some research before you post it.
> Describe your environment. Define your problem and attach logs whenever
> possible so that it is easier for others to diagnose the problem.
Otherwise
> expect to be told to RTFM.
> (http://www.tuxede.org/~esr/jargon/jargon.html#RTFM)
>
> (from http://www.tlug.jp/listpolicy.decorated.html)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx]On
> > Behalf Of The PC-Zone
> > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:36 AM
> > To: linux-help@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [linux-help] Re: help installing programs
> >
> >
> >
> > The exact URL or the program I got is
http://www.qmail.org/rpms/var-qmail/
> > I am using what ever RPM program came with Red Hat 7.3
> > And my leval in Linux is approxamently 20 days
> > And I am using the KDE Version of Linux.
> > Do you know of any good Training Classes a person can take on Linux?
> > Justin
>
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