[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#9709) Suggestion: limit on terraforming ocean <-> land

["Marcelo Burda" <mburda@xxxxxxxxx>]

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Le lun 16/08/2004 à 13:04, Christian Knoke a écrit :
> <URL: http://rt.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=9709 >
> 
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2004 at 02:38:57AM -0700, Marcelo Burda wrote:
> > 
> > Freeciv is a strategy games and a simulation one too. 
> 
> It's rather the simulation of a model, a model which is, in many aspects,
> far from reality. Add battle tactics, too. And a lot of fun.
Yes
> 
> > Is a  land bridges joining continents a good simulation concept. the
> > strategy to send a flow of ing to make a land bridge to get a another
> > continents with land unit instead to use a naval attack can be good
> > strategy in some case but is bas as a simulation game. i think this has
> > to be blocked. 
> 
> If realism is the point here, we have to remove terraforming alltogether, it
> never has happened *in tile scale* anywhere in the world.
MMM. 
tile scale is not well defined, this is because freeciv is a model more
than a exact simulation, then scales are not exact sense.
[sample:
In physical model of gaze using automate on lattice. a single atom work
as 20-500 of reals atoms. this is a difficult with simplified  models.
but if we use these model is because it reach real physical evolution in
a simplified way.
then scale as to be define in a very elastic way  
I am physicist :-D ]

If see the french territory you will be difficult to find a swamp, but
french territory was a big number of swamp, this is a big terraforming,
forest in Amazone is terraforming day after day, and soon we be with a
big dessert if not care! 
Holand as get land from sea, japan as raised mountains, sorry big
terraforming exist, but not so big. this can be done in a simplified way
allowing terraforming in game but limiting it to avoid some extreme
derive .

To join continent it is best to use naval unit, this is more funny, or
some land improvement as a breech, more easy to be destroyed by the
enemy.  
  
>  Instead, I
> consider a consistent game play as far more important. A very special rule
> to restrict terraforming is simply a break.
> 
when a king of a chess game is allowed to only do one step by turn this
is a break? not this is the rules of the games, fun is to win with these
rules.
In freeciv fun is to win with the rules of a model of the world and
civilizations. has realistic as possible and as fun as possible. 
> Christian

Marcelo