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To: Teemu Kurppa <tkurppa@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: freeciv-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Freeciv-Dev] Re: PATCH: tile markers
From: Petr Baudis <pasky@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 12:35:20 +0100

Dear diary, on Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 12:27:13PM CET, I got a letter, where Teemu
Kurppa <tkurppa@xxxxxxxxxx> told me, that...
> Petr Baudis wrote:
> > Dear diary, on Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 11:18:38AM CET, I got a letter, where
> > Teemu Kurppa <tkurppa@xxxxxxxxxx> told me, that...
> > > For example, in a private mail Ingo brought forward an idea that markers
> > > could be numbered and then allies could communicate like "you attack from
> > > the location number 4 to west, while I start attacking from the location
> > > 1 and 2.". I think this is a great idea, but we really need to think, how
> > > player can instruct, which markers are shown to which players etc.
> > It is. I would suggest for beggining:
> >   - several colors, e.g. Red, Blue, Yellow (not Green as it wouldn't be
> >   well visible)
> 
> Yes, several colors are needed. I also think there's no need to introduce
> more than 3-4, people don't use them. I think they probably use one for
> personal markers (city placement etc.), and one-two for communication. 
Yup, I didn't propose more :).

> >   - all the markers would be visible thru shared vision
> This is debatable. If you are playing very clever backstabbing strategy, you
> don't want to show all of your markers to all your "friends". 
True. So ability to switch visibility of each color in shared vision.

> > > I haven't lately played games,  where diplomacy and communication between
> > > players plays a big role. I'd like to, but, you know, civserver games are
> > > civserver games...  So, I may not be the best person to think this
> > > further.
> > Hmm, games I usually play are mostly diplomatic... and I think this would
> > certainly help.
> 
> So are you willing to continue from where I leave ?
Sorry, but I've no time for it now, and I would like to give the time I have
to AI cleanups.. :(

> Implementing and testing of marker numbering and sharing may take some time,
> so I still think my simple patch should be applied first. 
Yes. I would expect this -> numbering -> different colors -> sharing patches
:).

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