[Freeciv-Dev] Re: FreeCiv - arcade game?

[Jed Davis <jldavis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

--On Monday, 24 July 2000 23:43 +1000 dnh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 24, 2000 at 01:37:27PM +0200, Mathias Hasselmann
> > <Mathias.Hasselmann@xxxxxx> was heard to say:
> > > But the auto-goto-style you proposed is unfair: see this
> > > situation:
> > >
> > >                     D...
> > >                     .....    D - diplomat
> > >                     ..C..    C - city
> > >                     .....    . - visible squares
> > >                      ...
> >
> >   Why is this unfair?
> Because Diplomat D is with 1 square of the city and is still not seen,
> hence having the goto and capture command would allow the Diplomat to take
> the city in one turn without the City having any warning or time to
> defend. (With the current system this still sort of happens, but instead
> of the city being instantly taken the defender has a few seconds in which
> to throw a last ditched effort to kill the D).
>
> Darth_bob
If you wanted advance warning of a diplomat attack, you probably should 
have put a unit outside the city to make the vulnerable areas visible, and 
maybe sentried so it would wake up upon "seeing" the diplomat, after which 
you can kill the diplomat (which has a defense of 0...)
Of course, a diplomat could step off of a boat that just moved in from 4 
squares away, then incite revolt or whatever with the rest of its move, 
which would be a lot harder to watch for.
> ps. Is it just me.. or are defending diplomats useless now? In the last 3
> games I played.. I realised the possiblity of a diplomat attack and built
> 2 defending diplomats in the cities. Straight after these units were
> finished, low a behold a diplomat attack, and yet the first diplomat that
> was used got the city... even with two defenders... These diplomats are
> now so powerful with fog of war and lag, that it seems even more so than
> before, that Diplomats are the only way to attack.
I'd suggest changing the default setting of diplchance (?), but I've never 
had much luck with diplomats in AI games; the first attack works, but 
afterwards it seems that they all fail because the AI has built defenders.
--Jed