[aclug-L] Re: High-speed server access

[John Goerzen <jgoerzen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is probably not a good idea.  The reason: economies of scale.

There are companies out there that will give you an entire box, with
root, sitting in a machine rack somewhere with a fast pipe.  These are 
surprisingly inexpensive, just $30 to $50 a month or so.  They can
do this by having a lot of customers.

Now, even if you take ISDN.  Figure it costs, AT MINIMUM, $300 a
month.  You'd have to have 10 people interested in it to pay $30 a
month to break even.  And then, carved up, the bandwidth is basically
less than a 14.4 modem for each person.  A lot less than you could get 
with a separate company.

And of course with a box to yourself, you can do mailing lists, etc.

Jonathan Hall <jonhall@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> Once SouthWind supports DSL, I'm sure dedicated access will be available
> through them... although I don't know what the cost will be.
> 
> Something I mentioned once at an after-meeting ACLUG meeting, and we
> discussed it for a short while, was the possibility of ACLUG buying a "fast"
> connection to the Internet (128k ISDN probably) and putting up a server, and
> allowing ACLUG members, for the cost of operations, to host their own web
> sites, have shell access, etc, etc... possibly even allow for 33.6k (56k
> maybe, but it's much more expensive for small-scale) dialup.  Sort of an
> ACLUG Coop ISP.
> 
> I'm sure there are others in the group who would like cheap (at-cost) web
> hosting, shell access, mailing list management, etc, etc.  Perhaps if we
> drummed up enough interest, we could get something going, and then offer a
> sort of co-location service to customers who help pay for the cost of
> operation?
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 27, 1999 at 08:44:20AM -0600, Carl D Cravens wrote:
> > I run a 24/7 server (primarily mailing lists, but web and ftp as
> > well) that I currently have hooked up via dedicated modem... over $200 a
> > month after the cost of a phone line.  The availability of cable modem and
> > ADSL makes me feel really, really slow, but neither of these services will
> > support/allow dedicated IP and/or 24/7 public servers.  
> > 
> > Does anybody know of a faster solution in Wichita for dedicated service
> > that costs less than what I'm paying now?  ISDN is about twice that in
> > speed, but also twice that in price.  
> > 
> > --
> > Carl D Cravens (raven@xxxxxxxxxxx)
> > We tend to judge others by their actions, ourselves by our intentions.
> >    -Dr. Ed Cole.
> > 
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