[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7294) Reducing the bribe-power of Diplomats

["Genevieve Gracian" <ggracian@xxxxxxx>]

<URL: http://rt.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=7294 >

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:42:31 -0800
"ue80@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ue80@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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> <URL: http://rt.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=7294 >
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> On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 10:20:12AM -0800, Per I. Mathisen wrote:
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> > <URL: http://rt.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=7294 >
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> > On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Genevieve Gracian wrote:
> > > - cities are unbribable, a diplo acting against a city gets its defender
> > > (possibly with full move) on its tile. This would bring mixed attacks
> > > where diplos have a complementary role with militaries.
> > 
> > I like this idea. (Perhaps not full move, though.)
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> I think the bribed unit should lose at least the MP which are necessary
> to get on the field from the diplomat, better would be losing all MP.

I agree, getting the single defender in a city with its full move could
be too powerful again. :-)

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> So with the new behavior players would bribe out all units until the city is
> empty and after that get the city. Ships could move to an empty field in
> the water.
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> I like this idea. Because with that the only way to get a city is to
> move a military unit into it or get it by treaty.

It's the one I prefer. But 'complications' are brought : 
- if they are several defenders, criterias to select the one which is 
  caught by the diplomat 
- cost for the action : same cost than current one for bribing city/same
  cost than current one for bribing unit (I haven't yet a clear idea
  about the costs for bribing units).
 
> > > - cities are bribable but only those with 0 or 1 defender. If defenders
> > > are stacked in the city, then the city is unbribable. (This would be
> > > consistent with the rule that makes stacked units on field are
> > > unbribable).
> > 
> > This is also a good idea. I am not sure which idea I like better.
> 
> This could be done addititonal to the restrictions for some governments.

Possibly as a numeric server option, number of defender above which
cities can't be bribed anymore : 

0 cities are always unbribable 
1 cities are bribable if undefended
2 cities are bribable if defended by 1 unit or less
3 cities are bribable if defended by 2 units or less
and so on

-- 
G. Gracian