[Freeciv-Dev] Re: Submit patch again?

[Raimar Falke <hawk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 11:54:19AM -0700, Kevin Brown wrote:
> Raimar Falke <hawk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 15, 2001 at 02:59:08PM +0200, Karl-Ingo Friese wrote:
> > > 
> > > On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Raimar Falke wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Yes, we should try to get their point of view. How can they be
> > > > contacted? Are they subscribed on the freeciv mailing list?
> > > 
> > > As a start, I would just look at those who participate on
> > > the freeciv channel or appear in the top 10. Publunch comes
> > > to my mind ... dont know if Dizzy, Zop, K are still playing ...
> > > Even if they can not help coding, their feedback would be
> > > helpful in my eyes.
> > 
> > So to which topic can we ask people? The watchtower thing?
> 
> Anything related to gameplay and new features.  Remember, it needs to
> be something that's visible to the player.
> 
> I'll give an example from my own experience: there isn't any
> indication on the GUI or in the help system of what the indicators on
> the main window mean (you know, the lamp, the sun, etc.).  It occurred
> to me that it would be REALLY useful in the GTK client at least to
> implement tooltips for those items that otherwise aren't obvious.  So
> I've been looking at doing that, and have already done so for the main
> window indicators.
> 
> This isn't something that a veteran Freeciv player is going to even
> think about, but you can bet that someone relatively new to the game
> won't have a clue what those things are about.  And while it's
> documented in the manual, the manual is incomplete (it doesn't talk
> about global cooling at all, for instance, but there's an indicator
> for it!).
> 
> I happen to think that tooltips should be used to describe anything
> on any of these windows that isn't obvious to the untrained eye.  For
> instance, some of the headings of the reports (like the city report)
> use letters to describe things like Gold, Happiness, etc., but it's
> easy to forget what the letters stand for.  A tooltip that pops up
> when you leave the mouse pointer over the heading would be an ideal
> way to give the user more of an idea of what's going on.  But I'm not
> sure how to implement tooltips for the GTK column widget that's being
> used for the reports...

Ack.

> But, anyway, I think there needs to be a good, reliable way for users
> to give us feedback.  There probably should be a link on the main web
> page to submit suggestions and problem descriptions through, that will
> send suggestions to the bug system.

The "submit a new bug" page is only two click from the main
website. Maybe it should be expanded (renamed) to a general feedback
channel. Also it looks like forums
(http://apolyton.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?&forumid=111) are more
"modern" today.

        Raimar

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