[Freeciv-Dev] Re: Nations policy

[Stig Erik Sandoe <stig@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 11:12:24PM +0100, Stig Erik Sandoe wrote:

> > > We should not allow nations newer than 500 years.
> > 
> > I am sure germans and americans would disagree here :-)
> 
> Germans are about 1200 years old.
> They will surely fit.

The german nation is much much younger.  "Germany" earlier than that
was many small kingdoms. 
 
> > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 09:34:59AM +0100, Stig Erik Sandoe wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 14 Feb 2000, Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote:
> > > Not really. There are very little Icelandics.
> > > They can't be in freeciv, unless as part of bigger nation.
> > 
> > I was thinking of splitting the Viking nation into two nations;
> > - a modern norwegian nation (one of the oldest democracies in
> >   Europe with a democratic constitution from 1814)
> > - a viking nation (with more correct city names and leaders)
> > 
> > The mix right now is kindof silly and the "city" names in
> > the Viking nation doesn't make sense for either.  I can probably
> > dig out a few books about the vikings and come up with a patch. 
> 
> We surely need now 2 nationsets : ancient and modern.
> There is no other good way if we agree that city names
> can't double.

I agree that we probably need separate nationsets, but city names
are quite often used by several nations even when naming separate
cities. (e.g Newcastle, Cambridge, Bergen, ..)  First player to name
the city and keep the city alive gets the name.. simple. 
 
> > And I also want names of leaders (for all nations) to be
> > translatable, which I will probably put in the same patch.
> 
> Please rethink it.
> IMHO We should use names in leader's civ's language.
> John the Terrible of .ru
> John Lucembursky of .cz
> aren't good
> 
> I'm again suggesting translatable titles pool as solution.

Some "titles" are part of the name, again "Eirik Blodøks" was the
actual name ("Eric the Bloodaxe" in english) and "Richard
Lionheart" was the actual name (for all practical purposes at least
;)  

And as mentioned earlier, even firstnames are translated in various
languages, and at least english, danish, swedish and norwegian do
this.  The full names of the leaders should be translatable with the
country's own spelling as default.  This will probably require a
en.po though, as english is really keen on translating names :-)
 

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