[gopher] Re: Gopher server on shared host

["Matthew Nawrocki" <matthew.nawrocki@xxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, I was looking more along the lines of actually which servie I
should go to for a good gopher server... and help on setup. :P
Matt

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Matthew Nawrocki wrote:
> > Hey I could use some advice here.
> > Matt
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> John Harris Stevenson wrote:
> >>
> >>> This has been an interesting thread.
> >>> DreamHost has just begun to offer a virtual host to complement their
> >>> existing shared hosting, which I have been using for several years.
> When
> >>>
> >> I
> >>
> >>> asked about running a gopher server the support staff there suggested
> I
> >>>
> >> try
> >>
> >>> the virtual server, but I think without root I'm not likely to be
> >>> successful. I do have a unique IP.
> >>>
> >>> I'm going to try with PyGopherd, though it will be difficult to test
> >>>
> >> without
> >>
> >>> the port binding.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>> Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Any recommendations for a Gopher server to run in a shared Linux
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> hosting
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> environment?
> >>>>>> We're on DreamHost PS (http://www.dreamhostps.com/), so can run
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> processes,
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> but do not have root access. I've looked at some of the gopher
> >>>>>>
> >> servers
> >>
> >>>> on
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> offer and a recommendation would be helpful. Thanks!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> The primary problem you will have is running a process on port 70.
> If
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> your
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> package allows you to bind port numbers that low through some sort
> of
> >>>>> trusted method, and you have your own IP, there should be no
> problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you cannot bind port 70, you can still run a server on a high
> port
> >>>>> number such as 7070. How you would do this depends on the server
> >>>>>
> >> package
> >>
> >>>>> you use. The primary issue there is that Mozilla is hardcoded to
> only
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> use
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> port 70, part of the thing that OverbiteFF seeks to change (speaking
> >>>>>
> >> of
> >>
> >>>>> which, there will be a new OverbiteFF release later tonight -- more
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> shortly).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I find it odd that you do not have root access on a shared host.  I
> >>>> currently run two separate VPS servers that are remotely hosted via
> Xen
> >>>> that both allow full root access and all major ports and the ability
> >>>>
> >> for
> >>
> >>>> multiple ip's for an extra dollar per month.  I use VPS Land and NDC
> >>>> Host both allowing full control over your VPS.  The prices are
> >>>> reasonable I actually prefer NDC host over VPS Land but I required
> two
> >>>> separate servers for Python network development that would allow for
> >>>> rapid data transmission between the two servers.
> >>>>
> >>>> Brandon
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> You would get root along with Cpanel and probably Virtuoso (with a
> >> little extra fee) with a VPS as opposed to shared web hosting.  I do
> not
> >> know of a provider that does not support it.  If you need any help with
> >> set up give me a hollar I've done dozens of these.
> >>
> >> Brandon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Do they offer both Linux and Windows VPS hosting?  I would highly
> recommend that if they offer a Linux hosting look at the distro's they
> have available and look into what control panels they offer for
> starters.  Unless that was not the help you were looking for :)
>
> Brandon
>
>
>