[gopher] Re: Gopher server on shared host

[Brandon Poder <xythonix@xxxxxxxxx>]

Matthew Nawrocki wrote:
> Hey I could use some advice here.
> Matt
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> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> John Harris Stevenson wrote:
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>>> This has been an interesting thread.
>>> DreamHost has just begun to offer a virtual host to complement their
>>> existing shared hosting, which I have been using for several years. When
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>> I
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>>> asked about running a gopher server the support staff there suggested I
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>> try
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>>> the virtual server, but I think without root I'm not likely to be
>>> successful. I do have a unique IP.
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>>> I'm going to try with PyGopherd, though it will be difficult to test
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>> without
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>>> the port binding.
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>>> John
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>>> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Brandon Poder <xythonix@xxxxxxxxx>
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>>>> Cameron Kaiser wrote:
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>>>>>> Any recommendations for a Gopher server to run in a shared Linux
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>>>> hosting
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>>>>>> environment?
>>>>>> We're on DreamHost PS (http://www.dreamhostps.com/), so can run
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>>>> processes,
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>>>>>> but do not have root access. I've looked at some of the gopher
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>> servers
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>>>>>> offer and a recommendation would be helpful. Thanks!
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>>>>> The primary problem you will have is running a process on port 70. If
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>>>> your
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>>>>> package allows you to bind port numbers that low through some sort of
>>>>> trusted method, and you have your own IP, there should be no problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you cannot bind port 70, you can still run a server on a high port
>>>>> number such as 7070. How you would do this depends on the server
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>> package
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>>>>> you use. The primary issue there is that Mozilla is hardcoded to only
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>>>> use
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>>>>> port 70, part of the thing that OverbiteFF seeks to change (speaking
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>> of
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>>>>> which, there will be a new OverbiteFF release later tonight -- more
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>>>> shortly).
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>>>> I find it odd that you do not have root access on a shared host.  I
>>>> currently run two separate VPS servers that are remotely hosted via Xen
>>>> that both allow full root access and all major ports and the ability
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>> for
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>>>> multiple ip's for an extra dollar per month.  I use VPS Land and NDC
>>>> Host both allowing full control over your VPS.  The prices are
>>>> reasonable I actually prefer NDC host over VPS Land but I required two
>>>> separate servers for Python network development that would allow for
>>>> rapid data transmission between the two servers.
>>>>
>>>> Brandon
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>> You would get root along with Cpanel and probably Virtuoso (with a
>> little extra fee) with a VPS as opposed to shared web hosting.  I do not
>> know of a provider that does not support it.  If you need any help with
>> set up give me a hollar I've done dozens of these.
>>
>> Brandon
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Do they offer both Linux and Windows VPS hosting?  I would highly 
recommend that if they offer a Linux hosting look at the distro's they 
have available and look into what control panels they offer for 
starters.  Unless that was not the help you were looking for :)

Brandon