[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#13863) Data: Illyrian nation

["Daniel Markstedt" <himasaram@xxxxxxxx>]

<URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=13863 >

On 2005-11-04, at 13.04, William Allen Simpson wrote:

> We could have lots more leaders.  One reference has:
>

As is stated in doc/README.nations, a nation should not have much more 
than ten leaders. Any larger number is just overwhelming and confusing 
for most players. Try to pick the most influential and/or famous ones.

>
> A lot of the merged cities are Roman Empire.  For example, Gorsium
> was founded 2nd century CE, wiped out in 260, and Herculia was founded
> over the ruins in 290.  Both of the previous lists I merged had that as
> Gorsium-Herculia, so I assumed that Roman Empire was desired -- but
> also moved it to the end of the list, as it's rather late period.
>
> The History of the Decline and Fall of The Roman Empire says "the
> Illyrian cities of Neyss and Lissa are again found in the heart of
> Silesia."  Neyss is near Poland.  That's not ancient illyria.
>
> So, what period should the illyrian nation include?  Pre-Roman only?
>
> That would help cut down the city name conflicts. ;-)
>

I think focusing on pre-Roman cities is a good idea. You don't have to 
overdo the length of the city list either.

>
> Still looks mostly like a black blob.  Probably because the feathery
> wing style appears to be Renaissance.  All the early eagles have nice
> solid wings and bodies on the coins and engravings.
>
> Also, the double headed "illyrian" eagle on a yellow flag was Roman
> Empire (the symbol of the "illyrian" roman emporers and later the
> Byzantines) taken from the (hittite?) Anatolians.
>
> If we cut back the historical period to pre-roman, need a different
> flag symbol.  The horse seems popular on the coins.  Also the snake.
> -- 
> William Allen Simpson
>

You could either try to modify the Renaissance-esque eagle to make it 
more ancient-like, or make a nice horse or snake flag (more work that 
way, though.) But remember that it's very common in Freeciv to use 
modern (or renaissance) symbolism for ancient nations' flags, e.g. 
Egyptian, Persian, Chinese etc etc.

Cheers
-Daniel