[Freeciv-Dev] Re: Cheating

[Thomas Strub <ue80@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 07:45:01PM +0200, Christian Knoke wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 06:17:38PM +0200, Reinier Post wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 25, 2003 at 12:32:43AM +0200, Christian Knoke wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 09:48:17PM +0200, Raimar Falke wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > This link (http://catb.org/~esr/writings/quake-cheats.html) was posted
> > > > to linux-kernel and is a bit related to freeciv.
> > > 
> > > ----
> > > Carmack observes that "the [cheating] clients/proxies focus on two main
> > > areas -- giving the player more information than they should have, and
> > > performing actions more skillfully."
> > > ----
> > > 
> > > Freeciv isn't Quake. I think it is not to hard to fix the main information
> > > leak [...]
> > 
> > But what about the other pount?  This was discussed when the warclient
> > patch came out.  A solution was discussed that the article doesn't mention:
> > let the server "humanize" player actions (on the incoming packet queue)
> > before it actually tries to execute them.  E.g. impose the rule that no
> > two units can be moved within 0.2 seconds from each other, no matter of
> > the client sends the moves quicker.
> 
> Yes, that's what I had in mind when I wrote some weeks ago to the list.
> 
> This also has a realistic aspect. Moving a cruiser 7 tiles in 0.1 seconds
> isn't realistic. Just slow things down ...

Moving a queen in chess 7 tiles in 0.1 seconds isn't realistic too. I
don't want to slow down the game with rules like that. I think do all in
the server which could be a cheat. (autoattack, autodipls)

One way to prevent fast units is to stop the unit at a certain
point, pop up a message window with "have you seen that unit" let the
player move some units near that unit and after that continue the move
of the unit. (Would be really chesslike, 1 unit A then 1 unit B)

Another way could be starting to make freeciv more like command and
conquer. All units move the hole time small steps ...
 
> Christian

Thomas
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