[aclug-L] Re: FW: , Please help save SaturdaySale computer sale

[Clint Brubakken <cabrubak@xxxxxxx>]

Well I think the people to talk to about this, would be the Saturday
Sale and ask them how you got on thier list. I don't want to support
people that spam, and if we find out they do I'll stop going until they
stop. 

Of course this in not the issue with the mailing. 

I've read the law, and it seems it does apply to them, no matter who it
was meant to protect us from. 

Now it looks like a $35 license would clear this up, but I'm not sure if
thats per vendor, or would apply to the whole sale.

Its sad that one man, hates the sale this much, to spend so much effort
trying to stop it, but in this case it looks like he's legally right.

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 13:59, Chris Owen wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, James O. Harms wrote:
> 
> >
> > Dale W Hodge wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps I'm not clearly explaining myself.  I never asked to be added to
> > > > any list, I've never been to the Saturday and in fact had never heard of
> > > > the Saturday sale before I got their first spam.  I wouldn't be
> > > > complaining about unsolicited email if I had solicited it.
> > >
> > > Ah, that explaination makes a difference!
> > >
> > > Maybe someone thought they were doing you a favor and gave them your email
> > > address?  I pretty sure they don't just blanket spam, or I would have seen
> > > messages at all my email addresses instead of just the one I subscribed.
> >
> > Most of us who frequent the SaturdaySale find it helpful to know who
> > plans to be at the next sale, and perhaps something about what they
> > have to sell.  For us, the mailings are information - not spam.  The
> > explanation Dale gave - someone probably signed you up thinking they
> > were doing you a favor - is most likely what happened.  I have been
> > assured by the promoters that these mailings only go to those who
> > request them. --joh
> 
> Anything is possible but at the time I started getting them:
> 
> 1) I didn't live in Wichita
> 2) I'd never been a Saturday sale or knew anyone who had
> 3) I really didn't know anyone in Wichita
> 4) I'd never really used the email address that they were sending to
> 
> Additionally, I just went back to confirm this, but I didn't just get one
> copy of their emails but rather 5. Each was addressed to a different
> sales@domain address.  None of these email addresses had ever been used
> (and in fact weren't really valid email addresses which is how they all
> got in my mailbox).
> 
> The addresses had clearly been web scrapped.  All of the domain names were
> customers whose sites we host that happen to have the word "Wichita" on
> their pages.  Most were not Wichita businesses and don't do business in
> Wichita.
> 
> I'm reasonably certain that they addresses in question were all web
> scrapped.  One in particular almost had to be.  We host a customer at
> gardencity.net/theirname/.  Their email address is theirname@xxxxxxxxx.
> Yet I got a "personalized" email to sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx that was
> customized for the customer "Dear Theirname...".
> 
> I don't think there is any question that this is spam.
> 
> Chris
> 
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