[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#13805) Patch: Suggested change of default ruler titles

["Daniel Markstedt" <himasaram@xxxxxxxx>]

<URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=13805 >

On 2005-10-05, at 20.04, Peter Schaefer wrote:

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> <URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=13805 >
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> Well how about just allowing players to select the title, for example
> by using different names for different civs, if that is possible?
>

Isn't that already possible, with the ruler_titles tags? This is a 
question of finding a relatively fitting title for all nations that has 
not specified an own Despotism or Anarchy title (many hasn't).

> It might also make sense to somehow include the year or the number of
> cities in the calculation.
>

Sounds like unnecessary work.

> This whole discussion somehow does lead nowhere, since obviously if
> the government is despotism, the ruler is a despot. Maybe this
> discussion would make sense if people designed new goverments along
> with the ruler titles.
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> Now, I hit wikipedia both for tyrant and despot, and before modern
> times it made fully sense to refer to a ruler of a city who had
> overthrown the previous government(usually a "small" king), as a
> tyrant and not to negatively.
>

How about "Tyrant" for Anarchy perhaps? I had another idea of "Ursuper" 
(sp?). "Citizen" is ok, but hasn't this 'strongman' or rebellion leader 
kind of feel.

> In contrast, "Despot was an Imperial title, first used under Manuel I
> Komnenos", and it is a title which would appropriately designate a
> leader of the rest of a former empire.
>
> Maybe one would need to hit back to even earlier ages to find some
> ruler title who was not a king. Chieftain actually is pretty good.
>
>

I very much favor Chieftain too.

However, then we have the delicate issue on player that change back to 
Despotism late in the game: "Bow before Napoleon: Great Chieftain of 
the vast (19th century) French empire..." Quite ridiculous. But then 
again, humor is not a bad thing. The diplomacy screens of Civ1 for 
example had this kind of ridiculousness about them IIRC...

Daniel