[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#12232) don't allow invasions during peace treaties

["Jason Short" <jdorje@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

<URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=12232 >

Christian Knoke wrote:
> <URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=12232 >
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> On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 04:27:19PM -0800, Jason Short wrote:
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>><URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=12232 >
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>>As discussed on IRC and in numerous other threads...
> 
> 
> I take this that I'm not allowed having units inside a nation's territory
> I'm in peace with. Am I right?

Correct.

> But in alliance *and* in war times I *am* allowed. So, this is clearly a
> break.

Correct.  I had always thought to tie non-invasion to a different pact, 
some kind of non-agression pact that isn't a superset of alliance. 
However this would require changes to the diplomacy model I'm not ready 
to make.

> Here are my counter suggestions. 3 possibilities:
> 
> - *allow* peaceful units in my territory but limit them, by numbers or
>   strength. Physically block the border crossing for units exceeding the
>   limit.
> 
>   Reality aspect: In peace, the presence of troops is subject of
>   negotiations.

How is the limit determined?

> - Don't allow attacking for n=4 turns after cancelling an alliance. Disband
>   any units still on my territory after (n-1) turns.
> 
>   This has a reality aspect, since allied troops in my cities are not easy
>   able to attack there comrades at the same place/city/barracks, from command
>   structure and from social contacts.

Not sure I like this idea.  Note that when breaking alliance under the 
non-invasion patch the units in the territory will be bounced because of 
the peace treaty.

> - Strong reputation loss for a nation going from allinace to war in a short
>   time.
> 
>   Reality aspect obvious.

Indeed.

> Can be combined.
> 
> 
>>- When entering a peace treaty (through dipldialog, canceling of 
>>alliance, or loading a saved game) resolve_unit_stacks is called to 
>>bounce the units.  (Yes, this uses bouncing which is ugly.  Feel free to 
>>suggest something else.)
> 
> What does bouncing mean here?

They will be teleported to the nearest of your cities.

-jason