[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS (was: allies give all their tec
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On 03-12-05 you wrote:
AL> <URL: http://rt.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=7021 >
AL> On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 13:43:53 -0800 Jason Short wrote:
>> But ICS is a winning strategy, and has been in every civ game
>> I know about.
AL> Civ 3 actually solved it. People with linear ideas should note that
AL> no amount of messing with petty game variables has ever solved the
AL> problem.
AFAIK there are only two ways of changing any game:
1) change the rules,
2) change petty variables.
We have these ideas to fight ICS -- some change the petty variables,
some change the rules:
- increasing settler cost with each built settler,
- increasing corruption to draconian levels,
- increasing tech costs with every city (mine, mine! ;) I could even
write a patch, I believe.)
- making certain improvements required for building certain units
(implemented even) and resarching certain techs,
- having settlers cost 2 pop; splitting settler to settler/worker,
- no free city centre production anymore,
- restricting city radius,
- patriotism (#6375),
- probably some more I'm not aware of.
Now we should analyse what are the benefits of ICS. There is one:
exponential growth in every aspect of the game.
Observation: To successfully combat exponential things, you need to
apply exponenetial countermeasures or change game rules. If it's true,
then we need to have some costs growing at a rapid
rate. Or change the rules.
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- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, (continued)
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, raven@xxxxxxxxx, 2003/12/03
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, Arnstein Lindgard, 2003/12/04
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, Raimar Falke, 2003/12/04
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, imbaczek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 2003/12/04
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, raven@xxxxxxxxx, 2003/12/04
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, imbaczek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 2003/12/04
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, Jason Short, 2003/12/04
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, raven@xxxxxxxxx, 2003/12/04
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) allies give all their techs for nothing, Arnstein Lindgard, 2003/12/05
- [Freeciv-Dev] ics, Per I. Mathisen, 2003/12/05
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- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS (was: allies give all their techs for nothing), Arnstein Lindgard, 2003/12/06
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [SPAM] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS (was: allies give all their techs for nothing), imbaczek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, 2003/12/06
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [SPAM] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS (was: allies give all their techs for nothing), Brandon J. Van Every, 2003/12/07
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [SPAM] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS (was: allies give all their techs for nothing), Jason Short, 2003/12/07
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [SPAM] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS (was: allies give all their techs for nothing), Brandon J. Van Every, 2003/12/07
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [SPAM] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS, raven@xxxxxxxxx, 2003/12/07
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [SPAM] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS, Jason Short, 2003/12/07
- [Freeciv-Dev] (PR#7021) fighting ICS, raven@xxxxxxxxx, 2003/12/07
- [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [SPAM] Re: (PR#7021) fighting ICS, Brandon J. Van Every, 2003/12/08
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