[aclug-L] Re: Dead Motherboard?

[jlweaver <jlweaver@xxxxxxx>]

You will have to find someone with a system that has a known good 
motherboard who will be willing to plug your CPU in to test it.  
National, Floyds echo, Surplus store across the street from National, 
Cybertron on east Osie.  It may cost you more than a new CPU to have 
that done.  Stay away from the DURONS as they are nothing but crippled 
ATHLONS.  Cheap is nearly allways more expensive in the long run.  - 
Larry Weaver
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DAVID CARMICHAEL wrote:
>Two votes for a bad CPU.. 
>How can I test the one that I now have??
>
>--David
>
>--- Jeremy Johnstone <jsjohnst@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>  
>
>>I was about to recommend the same thing. I had an
>>AMD proc burn up
>>recently too. For a year it used the stock AMD fan.
>>I finally decided it
>>needed an upgraded fan (should have thought of that
>>sooner), and it died
>>about an hour later. The new proc now runs a good 30
>>degrees cooler than
>>the old one for only a $35 investment in fan and
>>thermal paste. I highly
>>recommend against ever using an AMD recommended (or
>>the one included in
>>the retail box set) fan again.
>>
>>-Jeremy
>>
>>On Thu, 2003-12-25 at 14:56, jlweaver wrote:
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>>
>>>Sounds just like a problem I had recently.  You
>>>      
>>>
>>have a AMD CPU right?  
>>    
>>
>>>The AMD CPU chips run awfully hot.  You can burn
>>>      
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>>one out even though you 
>>    
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>>>have the AMD recommended heat sink/fan
>>>      
>>>
>>combination.  Most of the time 
>>    
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>>>the CPU can run along ok but if you are doing some
>>>      
>>>
>>work which requires 
>>    
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>>>CPU intensive work the temperature of the CPU goes
>>>      
>>>
>>thru the roof.  You 
>>    
>>
>>>will have to buy a new CPU chip.  Do not use the
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>>>
>>old heat sink or the 
>>    
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>>>AMD recommended heat sink.  I recommend a
>>>      
>>>
>>_*Thermalright Inc #SLK-900(A) 
>>    
>>
>>>heat sink*_ and a _*80mm squirrel cage blower from
>>>      
>>>
>>Cooler Master*_.  
>>    
>>
>>>That blower moves a ton of air and is fairly quiet
>>>      
>>>
>>and you can buy a 
>>    
>>
>>>model that the fan speed is adjustable from the
>>>      
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>>outside of the case.  
>>    
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>>>The heat sink is massive and all copper. You will
>>>      
>>>
>>have to fabricate a 
>>    
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>>>spacer for the fan since it is lower than the
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>>standard fans (1/4" as 
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>>>opposed to 1") because of the mounting method
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>>required by the copper 
>>    
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>>>heat sink (no scrws).  MSI has a program Core
>>>      
>>>
>>Center which can monitor 
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>>>the CPU temperature and sound an alarm if the CPU
>>>      
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>>gets over a user set 
>>    
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>>>temperature.  You must use a _*Ultra CPU
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>>PROTECTOR*_ between the CPU 
>>    
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>>>chip and the heat sink since the sink is heavy. 
>>>      
>>>
>>You can get the the CPU 
>>    
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>>>Protector from CybertronPC locally for under
>>>      
>>>
>>$10.00.  You will have to 
>>    
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>>>order the rest of the stuff off the internet.  Do
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>>>
>>not use the old white 
>>    
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>>>paste you normally use but buy a little tube of
>>>      
>>>
>>_*Ceramique by Artic 
>>    
>>
>>>Silver*_ which you can buy at National Computer. 
>>>      
>>>
>>Now dry your tears and 
>>    
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>>>get out your pocketbook.  This is going to be
>>>      
>>>
>>costly.  Shortcuts are not 
>>    
>>
>>>an option here.  Hope you got money from Santa
>>>      
>>>
>>Claus.
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>>>Also, when you get the CPU up again the *very
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>>>
>>first thing you must do 
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>>>is* run SCANDISK with the thorough option on all
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>>>
>>drives.  This is 
>>    
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>>>necessary to repair the faulty disk writes that
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>>the CPU may have 
>>    
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>>>caused.  This will probably take a lot of time but
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>>you can't afford to 
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>>>skip it if you have valuable data on the disks. 
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>>Then you will want to 
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>>>run Defrag..
>>>
>>>Be sure to install Core Center and have it load at
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>>boot time.  You can 
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>>>set the alarm point and also watch the temp climb
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>>when you stress the 
>>    
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>>>CPU.  You can download a program called PRIME95
>>>      
>>>
>>which will exercise 
>>    
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>>>memory and the CPU to varying degrees.  It is a
>>>      
>>>
>>program that computes 
>>    
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>>>prime numbers by several methods.  Good luck.
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>===================================================================================
>  
>
>>>DAVID CARMICHAEL wrote:
>>>
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>>>
>>>>-=Pick Your Brain below=--
>>>>--- DAVID CARMICHAEL <dec2955@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I am about ready to cry...
>>>>>
>>>>>Either my CPU, video card, or motherboard
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>crashed on
>>    
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>>>>>my Duron system...
>>>>>
>>>>>You dont't happen to have test system to help
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>track
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>>>>>down to make sure which part it is do you??
>>>>>
>>>>>--David
>>>>>
>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>OK here is what I "THINK"
>>>>Either the CPU has gone bad or the motherboard
>>>>        
>>>>
>>has
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>>>>gone bad..
>>>>
>>>>The motherboard is a an MSI K7T (MS-4847+SCSI)
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>>>>
>>http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=96
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>>>>This "MB" does not use "BEEPS" but uses a fancy 4
>>>>        
>>>>
>>LED
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>>>>lighting system...
>>>>
>>>>Even wtih all memory pulled the "MB" is reporting
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>>>>
>>that
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>>>>all is well .. all four the the LED's are 'GREEN'
>>>>which the Manuel states it is trying to load the
>>>>"OS".. 
>>>>
>>>>I have disconnected all IDE drives..... yet when
>>>>        
>>>>
>>I
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>>>>turn on the system the case IDE active light
>>>>        
>>>>
>>comes on
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>>>>and the keyboard never goes into its test (num
>>>>        
>>>>
>>lock,
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>>>>ect.. flash)
>>>>
>>>>I can pull the CMOS reset and the case power
>>>>        
>>>>
>>button
>>    
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>>>>does not work..
>>>>
>>>>Per the manual IF it was a bad CPU I would get
>>>>        
>>>>
>>four
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>>>>'RED' led's
>>>>
>>>>Re-Reading the Manuel it stated that a bad
>>>>        
>>>>
>>"battery"
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>>>>could be the cause of my troubles... and feedback
>>>>        
>>>>
>>on
>>    
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>>>>this thought??? Before I go an spend $5 on a new
>>>>battery when it is something else??
>>>>
>>>>--David
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