[aclug-L] Re: colocation options
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2003 at 02:45:28PM -0600, Lars von dem Ast wrote:
> I've always been frustrated by the choices out there, myself. If you
> don't want an "ftp-only FrontPages PHP MySQL Perl" or the equivalently
> super-lame MS arrangement, you seem to be out of luck, unless you want
> to pay through the nose. Their excuse is always security. To me, this
> whole scene is suffocating all the innovative, exotic small open source
> projects out there like Mason, Zope, mod_scheme, etc. It's hard to find
> even Java hosting! I guess I don't blame the Web hosting companies as
> much as I blame the general pervasive anti-peer-to-peer attitude of the
> ISPs and big telcoms. My former M'ridge DSL service came with a static
> IP, but when I asked Carrolls Web about domain name, they wanted to jack
> $15/mo. out of me. This is all a shame, and the anti-peer-to-peer forces
> will eventually turn a beautiful thing, the Internet, into a very bad
> thing, i.e., one-way brain cloning a la TV and radio.
Security is a valid concern and is part of it, but also relevant is
administration simplicity. The "ftp-only FrontPages PHP MySQL Perl"
combinations work fairly well in multi-entity domain hosting with a
single administrative organization and satisfies most user
requirements. Adding some of the other things that you mention, adds
complexity at nearly an exponential rate. Also, some of those things
really require administrative access to the server to use well. Mason,
for example, is a very cool application, but to really utilize its
capability requires the user to be able to reconfigure the server and
restart the server and other administrative operations. This is just
not something that works in a web hosting environment.
As to the "anti-peer-to-peer" forces, I have no idea what you are
talking about.
Steve
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- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, flimzy, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Chris Owen, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman), 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, flimzy, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, gLaNDix, 2003/02/25
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Nate Bargmann, 2003/02/25
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, flimzy, 2003/02/26
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Lars von dem Ast, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options,
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- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Lars von dem Ast, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Chris Owen, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Hugh Harding, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Lars von dem Ast, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Carl D Cravens, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Chris Owen, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, Nate Bargmann, 2003/02/24
- [aclug-L] OT: Tivo forsale, Michael Osten, 2003/02/25
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, flimzy, 2003/02/25
- [aclug-L] Re: colocation options, flimzy, 2003/02/25
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