[linux-help] Re: help installing programs

[Anne McCadden <ironrose@xxxxxxx>]

I would recommend the book "Linux for Window Addicts" by Michael Joseph 
Miller and Osborne press.  The "Linux administration for Dummies" is 
also very good.  I also moved from Windows NT to linux and it hasn't 
always been a smooth transition.  Reading some linux books and getting 
help from the group has helped me get thru some rough spots.  Has a bit 
of a steep learning curve.  Good luck and stay with it.  A person can do 
so much more with linux that you can with NT -- that is in the long run. 
 ttyl ~Anne

The PC-Zone wrote:

>I would love to drop qmail, but less then 20 days ago Linux was dumped on
>me, I have over ten years of experience in Microsoft Windows NT.  I
>understand how Microsoft works, and how everything runs in Microsoft.  Now
>Linux is a new experience for me, just like I am sure at one time you where
>new to the Linux inviroment.  Unlike you I do not have a good understanding
>of how things work in the Linux inviroment.  I have a good feel on how to
>navigate around Linux, but not to install programs.  So before you tell some
>one where to go think back to when you first started.  So unlike you, I have
>not got the experience on Linux.  All I ever here is about how good Linux
>is, and how I should learn about Linux.  From what I have expereince in the
>past 20 days is that Linux, and the poeple using it perfer to keep the
>secret on how to use the program to them self.  I have tried Red Hat for
>support, I have tried these E-mail help Places, I have Asked poeple, who use
>Linux, and all I have been getting is frustrated.  I have even offered my
>toll free number to any one that could call, and explain a little about
>linux, and I got no response.  Is Linux some sort of secret program, that
>only a few certain poeple hold the knoledge, and the others are left out?  I
>have come to the conculsion the reason Linux is not as Popular as Microsoft
>Products is that no one is willing to help, and have patients for some one
>who gets dumped into a new inviroment, tring to meet deadlines, and is
>realizing that the more he ask the less he understands.  To conculd, I would
>like to say thank you for what little help I got, and appriciate the little
>help a few of you where able to provide to me.
>
>Justin
>866-327-6644
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Koji Hayakawa" <sylf@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <linux-help@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 3:00 AM
>Subject: [linux-help] Re: help installing programs
>
>
>>I would suggest you drop qmail for a while, then.  Go read more about
>>
>Linux
>
>>in general.  Go buy a book on Linux.  Buy any book like Linux for dummies
>>
>or
>
>>Beginning Linux or Teach Yourself Linux in 24 hours or whatever.  Just
>>
>spend
>
>>some time reading these books, and try what the book suggest you to try.
>>The hands-on experience will teach you.  And if you don't understand
>>
>what's
>
>>going on in the book then come back to this mailing list and ask
>>
>questions.
>
>>Also, try finding documents in http://www.linug.org and
>>
>http://www.tldp.org.
>
>>I believe entry level Linux courses are waiste of money and time.
>>
>>Get comfortable how to get around the system.  Get used to command lines.
>>Learn to read on-line manual pages (man command).  They will benefit you,
>>
>if
>
>>you want to learn Linux.
>>
>>***********************
>>
>>Back to couple lines of your reply....
>>
>>"Whatever RPM program came with Red Hat 7.3" won't tell us anything.  As
>>
>far
>
>>as I know, it loads the command line RPM program, Gnome version of RPM
>>manager, and KDE's RPM manager.
>>
>>And FYI, "KDE Version of Linux" is not proper way to express a version of
>>Linux.  KDE is what's so called "Desktop Environment."  It can run any
>>version of Linux running X Windows.  It actually runs on any Unix or
>>
>Linux.
>
>>So in your case, you are using "Red Hat Linux 7.3, running KDE."
>>
>>***********************
>>
>>Not to be rude, but let me end the note with this quote from certain Linux
>>User Group's Mailing List FAQ:
>>
>>Q: I want to post a question.
>>A:  First of all, read this wonderful resource. How To Ask Questions The
>>Smart Way (http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html). In
>>
>short,
>
>>if you're posting a question, try to do some research before you post it.
>>Describe your environment. Define your problem and attach logs whenever
>>possible so that it is easier for others to diagnose the problem.
>>
>Otherwise
>
>>expect to be told to RTFM.
>>(http://www.tuxede.org/~esr/jargon/jargon.html#RTFM)
>>
>>(from http://www.tlug.jp/listpolicy.decorated.html)
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:linux-help-bounce@xxxxxxxxx]On
>>>Behalf Of The PC-Zone
>>>Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 1:36 AM
>>>To: linux-help@xxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [linux-help] Re: help installing programs
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>The exact URL or the program I got is
>>>
>http://www.qmail.org/rpms/var-qmail/
>
>>>I am using what ever RPM program came with Red Hat 7.3
>>>And my leval in Linux is approxamently 20 days
>>>And I am using the KDE Version of Linux.
>>>Do you know of any good Training Classes a person can take on Linux?
>>>Justin
>>>
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