[Freeciv-Dev] Re: Betr: (PR#6932) Re: Re: Artistic polish

["Paul Zastoupil" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

<URL: http://rt.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=6932 >

On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 06:25:31AM -0800, Raimar Falke wrote:
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> <URL: http://rt.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=6932 >
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> On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 04:49:29AM -0800, Per I. Mathisen wrote:
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> > <URL: http://rt.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=6932 >
> > 
> > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Raimar Falke wrote:
> > > > So rather than risk your own neck, you would rather risk someone else's?
> > > > How nice.
> > > >
> > > > Please realize that these copyright violations are ignored by the game's
> > > > publisher only because it only benefits them to do so. The moment it
> > > > starts benefitting a competitor, expect them to go after whoever hosts
> > > > these files - whether they aid us knowingly or not.
> > >
> > > You misunderstood me. I was thinking about graphics from 3rd parties
> > > which are ok to use privately.
> > >
> > > I also haven't said that freeciv.org should host these files. We may
> > > if the author is accepting this and we are sure that the author
> > > doesn't violate himself.
> > 
> > But Vasco's (and my) point is exactly that we can't know that the author
> > doesn't violate himself, because the mod communities do not take these
> > things (copyright) very seriously. We had several examples of this with
> > civ2 mods where the 'author' claimed as wholly his something that was
> > merely a derived work or included entire pieces of the original game art.
> 
> I think that we can write on freeciv.org:
> 
>   To use the civ3-graphics feature you need a civ3 tileset. You may
>   search one via google. You may also use the graphics from modpack
>   foobar (http://..../). It is tested with freeciv and the license
>   allows personal use.
>   
>   NOTE however that the modpack may violate the copyright. You are
>   responsible here when you download and use it.
> 
> At least this is my layman opinion.

No no no.  Never.  We will never say any such thing on freeciv.org.
This is playing with fire.

> 
> > The only things that are really safe is art that has been made for
> > us from scratch - such as the trident tileset.
> 
> If it comes to a real case I think it would be quite messy if some of
> the maintainers claimed to have created graphics from scratch but
> copied it.

If it comes to a real case, it doesn't matter what the facts are...

-- 
Paul Zastoupil