[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#3735) Zulu (Shaka) gets a free capital when Catalan (Jefe) conquers its capital

["Paul Zastoupil" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:46:45AM -0800, ChrisK@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:28:06AM -0800, Thomas Strub wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:16:29AM -0800, ChrisK@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 12:58:33AM -0800, Guest wrote:
> > > > [glip - Tue Apr  1 18:46:21 2003]:
> > > > > > [guest - Sun Mar 23 09:33:31 2003]:
> > > > > > 
> > > 
> > > > > AFAIK the "always free palace" happens only if
> > > > > 1. savepalace is enabled
> > > > > 2. the nation is not able to build palace themselves (i.e. doesn't 
> > > > > have 
> > > > > the required tech)
> > > 
> > > I was thinking savepalace=1 means you always get a new palace if the 
> > > capital
> > > is lost.
> > > 
> > > Help also says so:
> > > 
> > > Option: savepalace  -  Rebuild palace if capital is conquered
> > > Description:
> > >   If this is set to 1 when the capital is conquered, palace is 
> > > automatically
> > >   rebuilt for free in another randomly choosed city, regardless on the
> > >   knowledge of Masonry.
> > 
> > It's a help for newbies .. and i really dislike that it is default at 1
> > on pubserver.
> 
> It has been introduced for Civ 2 compatability. I think the default is ok.

Doesn't it make sense that you would eventually move your capitol?
A turn is a long time.

> 
> > > So I take this that you always have a city w/ palace.
> > 
> > No, only that you get a new when you have a city and you lost the palace
> > because you lost your capital.
> 
> Uh, ok.
> 
> > > But consider these:
> > > 
> > > 1) I recently started a game and lost all my cities very soon. My explorer
> > > then discovered a city in a hut, so my nation continued to exist - without
> > > a palace.
> > 
> > Nice story.
> 
> Don't know what civ2 did - but I would make it build a palace in the first
> city I get.
> 
> > > 2) When you sell your palace you do not get a new one, which is probably
> > > ok. But what happens when your palace is sold due to lack of Gold?
> > 
> > I know no ruleset where a palace needs upkeep ...
> 
> Ok.
> 
> > > And an unrelated question, just comes to mind: what is the use of a palace
> > > in a democracy? There is no corruption anyway, but if you don't have a
> > > capital, it cannot be conquered ;) What am I missing?
> > 
> > You can't build a spaceship without capital.
> 
> So I tend to sell it when I'm in danger ...
> 
> Christian
> 
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Paul Zastoupil