[Freeciv-Dev] Re: More imporved game starting [patch]

[Christian Knoke <ChrisK@xxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 10:13:42PM +0100, Andreas Kemnade wrote:
> Christian Knoke writes:
>  > On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 08:17:31PM +0100, Andreas Kemnade wrote:
>  > > Jason Short writes:
>  > >  > Daniel L Speyer wrote:
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > > Here is an improved version of Andreas's patch from back in October 
> to
>  > >  > > control the server from the client.  This version supports multiple
>  > >  > > simultaneous games by checking which ports are available.
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > 
>  > >  > At first, I thought that would be a good idea - but then I noticed 
> the 
>  > >  > "start game" and "end game" buttons on the server window.  If this is 
>  > >  > expanded to include fuller (possibly even "full") control through the 
>  > >  > GUI, that'd be much better.
>  > > Ok, lets have a list of server commands in common code (not in
>  > > gui-gtk) and let the client display a button for each (important) command
>  > > (implemented like the local options dialog).
>  > > 
>  > > We could also parse the output of the show command and use it to
>  > > create a server options dialog. 
>  > 
>  > I don't recommend parsing of server output because of 
>  > translations.
> We do not use the network.

Thats not the problem.

> I think we can safely parse the stuff from the pipe (=not from network).
> Where is the problem?
> Example:
> barbarians    +=2     (0,4)          Häufigkeit von Barbaren
> The name of the option is not translated. The current and the minmax
> values are not translated. The only thing which is translated is the
> description. 

This may be true for the show command, but not for "list" e.g.
Anyway, output of show is long and parsing is slow.
Options may be added, names may change.
Bad design.

And why not control a remote server with this? I recently had
a game with server and client on different machines, because
my computer was too slow for both 8-) BTW ai code has become
slower.

> But the server has the same language as the client because it has the
> same environment (If it is started using the patch) so the description
> can be safely used in label near the slider for that value.

No, because the texts are not designed for use in dialogs and may
be much too long.

> 
> Greetings
> Andreas Kemnade

Christian

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