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Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Richard Reid
From: lowell <lowell@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 10:25:02 -0600
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perhaps you should recall Malcolm X's prison conversion; there's a 
considerable Muslim community in any American prison, and not much of a 
pro-American one...

Nate Bargmann wrote:

>* Michael Moore <mrmoore@xxxxxxx> [2003 Feb 01 07:04 -0600]:
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>>Even though this thread has nothing to do with Linux, I will comment:
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>At first glance this is true, but the Linux, GNU, and Open Source 
>philosophy is about freedom.  To maintain the freedom to work with/on 
>Linux then we must secure our freedom by thwarting those that would 
>destroy us.
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>>After hearing on the news about Reid's comments after he was sentenced 
>>to life in a federal pen I wondered if he would end up spending the 
>>majority of his life sentence in solitary confinement. After all, I 
>>think if they were to let him into the general population with the other 
>>prisoners, the other prisoners would kill him.
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>I wonder about this.  I think I read somewhere (so I can't be sure of
>the veracity of my information) that Islam has a very high conversion
>rate among the prison population.  So, I wonder what his reception would
>really be if he were let into the general prison population.
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>>Reid wants to kill all U.S. Americans. And our American Federal Prisons 
>>have American prisoners in them. I doubt that these terrorist, such as 
>>Reid, care whether or not your a prisoner or an upstanding citizen. If 
>>Reid carries his hatred and his hatred actions towards Americans into 
>>prison, then I have a feeling he won't live very long.
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>I don't think his hatred is confined to U.S. Americans.  Even though the
>World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks occured on U.S. soil, they were
>conducted without regard to the nationality of the people on the planes
>or in the locations.  Truly, their hatred is directed toward anyone that
>is not a fundamentalist Islamic, by their definition.  I do think that
>an individual Islamic American would be spared their wrath so long as
>that individual shared the same fundamentalist belief.  Jon Lihn Walker
>seems to be proof of that.
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>Their goal appears to be the establishment of a fundamentalist Islamic
>world order.  In order to achieve that they must destroy all other
>dissenting beliefs.  To get an idea of their view of an ideal world one
>needs to look no further than Iran and what was established under the
>Taliban in Afghanistan.
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>>I don't think he will be submissive once it gets into prision. Just look 
>>at they way be behaved during his trial.
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>This quote comes from:
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>http://europe.cnn.com/2003/LAW/01/30/shoebomber.sentencing/
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>[Reid] believed bombing the plane was necessary to "prevent the destruction 
>of Islam." In court he described himself as a "soldier."
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>Young responded, "You are not a soldier in any war -- you are a
>terrorist."
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>Calling the sentence Reid will face "a fair and just sentence, a
>righteous sentence," Young said, "We do not sign documents with
>terrorists. We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice. ...
>You're big, but you're not that big. You are no warrior. I know
>warriors. You are a terrorist.
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>"You hate our freedom -- our individual freedom to live as we choose, to
>come and go as we choose, and to believe or not believe as we
>individually choose. ... See that flag, Mr. Reid? That is the flag of
>the United States of America. That flag will fly there long after this
>is forgotten. And it still stands for freedom."
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>- Nate >>
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