[aclug-L] Re: Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose

[Ironrose <amccadden@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Very good responses Jon.  It is VERY easy to support M$, but it isn't
easy to support Linux.  I feel like I am sinking and way over my head
with some of the people who I have been in contact with.  I don't know
how to setup a network or all internet services.  I had help with my
setup, sometimes from James and mostly from Jeff.  I like linux a lot
and use it a lot, but I don't know enough to support it.

If some of you really knew the questions asked and problems presented by
NEWBIE customers/consumers, you would realize that the general public
ISN'T ready for linux to be on every desktop.  In my humble opinion,
linux offers good security for servers and business desktops. M$ has it
failings, and it isn't my favorite OS, but its easy for a beginner to
use.  It looks like XP might become the best product that M$ has
created.  It installs and has drivers for ALMOST all hardware.  Several
people have been very happy with it and I am happy for them.  I just
don't want to use it on my computers, I can't afford it.  Others who
install with older hardware and older programs, have been through their
worst nightmare.  No OS is or will be the be-all that ends-all for
everyone.  We all have opinions and most of us use them very freely.  I
don't want anyone to force me into using a certain product and I am glad
that for now we have that freedom.  James G. told me that there is a law
being proposed that for computer security, that its proposed plans are
to outlaw linux.  I will check to find out more details.  James said
that he found this on one of the linux news sites about a week ago.  Has
anyone heard anything about this?  ttyl ~Ironrose

Jonathan Hall wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:21:27PM -0600, jeffrey l koehn wrote:
> >
> > Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose. So
> > sit back and watch it happen.
> >
> > That's right, Linux will be on every desktop
> 
> I hope not.  Linux on every desktop would be a HUGE consumer headache.
> 
> > and server and you can damn me all to hell
> > for saying so, but that is how it will be.
> > The all American Dollar rules. What becomes
> > a standard is determined by economics
> > ( the cost of the product).
> > There was a time when you could get Windows 3.1,
> > for $30.00 and that is when Micro$oft
> > became a standard, it was'nt because of
> > superior technology.
> 
> Actually, Microsoft became the standard about 10 years earlier with the
> release of MS-DOS.  It was the success of the IBM PC that made Microsoft the
> standard, not the release of Windows 3.1.
> 
> > The genie (GPL, Linux, Open-Souce) was let out
> > of the bottle long time ago and as time passes
> > it will consume everything. If you ask me, it
> > reached critical mass in 1998. The genie can not
> > be put back into the bottle. And so the
> > next business/technology model has
> > already been determined.
> >
> > Why?
> > Because:
> > 1)Lower Cost ( The Linux Kernel doesn't cost anything)
> 
> It doesn't cost anything to obtaion.  To MANTAIN it can still be VERY
> expensive.  That's why it's used mostly by "geeks"--b/c they don't have to
> hire anyone to MANTAIN it for them.
> 
> > 2)Open-source Kernel
> > 3)The "GPL, Linux, Open-Source Kernel"
> > is the perfect technology foundation
> > for Manufacturing and the masses
> > because people, businesses, universities,
> > governments contribute to it.
> > 4) Linux can scale up or down
> 
> Most people don't need an OS to scale.  They need an OS to run on their
> consumer-grade PC.  The ability of Linux to run on embeded microcontrollers
> is irrelevant to them.  Likewise, the ability of Linux to run on multiple
> parallel high-end servers with SCSI RAID arrays is also irrelevant to them.
> 
> > 5) Linux is hardware agnostic
> > 6) "Linux, Open-Source" can and
> >      will morph into future tecnologies
> >      that will benefit all.
> >
> > If your not using Linux and your
> > still using MS windows, you better
> > wake up and smell the coffee
> > because the world has changed.
> 
> I think most of us on this list are already using (or trying to use) Linux.
> 
> And Linux is great.... but it's not the end-all be-all of computer operating
> systems or anything.
> 
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