Re: [aclug-L] Flame bait... (distribution question)

[jeffrey.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx]

I was going to order 5.2 even though there wasn't much change (reportedly)
over 5.1 because some of the bugs were supposed to have been fixed (the
holdover config utils that don't work in the new kernel, etc.).  It just
seems, though, that with the immenent release of the new kernel that it
would be money wasted.  It is tempting to try 5.2 just for grins.  I'm not
sure why my monitor should complain about resolutions I'm using in Win95,
but I'm sure it's my malfunction, not RedHat's.  Call it faith and
experience.  :-)





phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on 03/10/99 04:16:17 PM

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DITTO,

i started with a cd set that had debian, slackware, and redhat.
debian did nothing.
slackware installed but i could not get X up and running.
i did redhat last and almost everything worked, so i stuck with it.
that was RH 3.0.3.
later i did RH 4.0 every thing worked.
i heard lots of bad things about 4.2 so switched to Pacific High Tech.
it was and still is the easyest to install.  but many apps i down loaded
had trouble installing.
tried debian from one of the installs but had too much trouble configuring
and installing stuff.
now i've gone back to RH 5.2 because all the addvise i get always seems to
be for RH or Slackware.

phrostie


jeffrey.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> The problem I have with Debian is that in three tries I have yet to have
a > successful experience.  It was my preference because the school is
using > it, but I must require more active brain cells than the 60's left
me with. > Unfortunately, I missed the install party.  I was really hoping
the see it
> done by the experts (presumably enabling me to mimic the success), but,
> alas, it wasn't meant to be.  Other than that, I'm on their side if not
> simply because of their "totally free" approach, then because of the
> support.
>
> cabrubak@xxxxxxxxxxx on 03/10/99 10:44:13 AM
>
> Please respond to aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> To:   aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> cc:    (bcc: Jeffrey Hansen/BFTC/Bombardier)
> Subject:  Re: [aclug-L] Flame bait... (distribution question)
>
> On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Greg House wrote:
>
> > Perhaps I'm opening up a can of worms here, but I'm wondering what
other
> > people's thoughts on this are.  And how others are handling it.
> >
> > I know a lot of you are running Debian, some are running RedHat, and
> there's > a couple with other distributions.
> >
> > I tried several of them when I was first getting started and the one
that > > ended up staying on my machine was Slackware.  It seemed fairly
intuitive > > for me, so I kept it.  Since then I've set up a couple of
RedHat systems, > > and now I'm working on a Debian system.  What I'm
finding is that almost > > everything in terms of really current stuff only
comes in tarballs and > rpms. > For example, I wanted the lasted version of
XFree86, no deb files
> available > for it (except some experimental builds a Debian developer
> made, which took
> > awhile to locate).  I wanted the new Gnome 1.0...rpms...no debs.
> > Enlightenment?  NO debs (well, actually debian.org had them in the
slink
> > directories, but they weren't on enlightenment.org)
> >
> > Are all you Debian users 6 months behind on stuff (the last frozen
> release)? > Are you getting source for these things and compiling them
> yourself?  Are > you running development versions of Debian (slink (until
> today), potato)? > It just seems like when there's a package manager that
> you'll eventually end > up shooting yourself in the foot if you have to
> subvert it by installing the > stuff that's not packaged in your package
> system of choice.  It also appears > that the only packages people are
> doing of really up to the minute stuff are
> > rpm packages. I like the concept of Debian.org (totally free), but I'm
> > seriously thinking about going back to RedHat because of the
availability
> of > current packages.  Slackware'll keep track of the tarball
> installations for > you, so that might be an option too.
> >
>
> I tried redhat 4.2, and 5.0, and after getting sick of things not working
> ,and since i could get "support" for debian I installed debian.
>
> Yes I do wait 6 months for the newest debs, and that does kinda of annoy
> me, but the reason it takes so long is that want to get as mnay bugs out
> as possible, and I admit it works. It is very stable.
>
> > Greg
> >
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DITTO,
<P>i started with a cd set that had debian, slackware, and redhat.
<BR>debian did nothing.
<BR>slackware installed but i could not get X up and running.
<BR>i did redhat last and almost everything worked, so i stuck with it.
<BR>that was RH 3.0.3.
<BR>later i did RH 4.0 every thing worked.
<BR>i heard lots of bad things about 4.2 so switched to Pacific High Tech.
<BR>it was and still is the easyest to install.&nbsp; but many apps i down
loaded had trouble installing.
<BR>tried debian from one of the installs but had too much trouble
configuring and installing stuff.
<BR>now i've gone back to RH 5.2 because all the addvise i get always seems
to be for RH or Slackware.
<P>phrostie
<BR>&nbsp;
<P>jeffrey.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>The problem I have with Debian is that in three tries
I have yet to have a
<BR>successful experience.&nbsp; It was my preference because the school
is using
<BR>it, but I must require more active brain cells than the 60's left me
with.
<BR>Unfortunately, I missed the install party.&nbsp; I was really hoping
the see it
<BR>done by the experts (presumably enabling me to mimic the success),
but,
<BR>alas, it wasn't meant to be.&nbsp; Other than that, I'm on their side
if not
<BR>simply because of their "totally free" approach, then because of the
<BR>support.
<P>cabrubak@xxxxxxxxxxx on 03/10/99 10:44:13 AM
<P>Please respond to aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<P>To:&nbsp;&nbsp; aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
<BR>cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (bcc: Jeffrey Hansen/BFTC/Bombardier)
<BR>Subject:&nbsp; Re: [aclug-L] Flame bait... (distribution question)
<P>On Tue, 9 Mar 1999, Greg House wrote:
<P>> Perhaps I'm opening up a can of worms here, but I'm wondering what
other
<BR>> people's thoughts on this are.&nbsp; And how others are handling
it.
<BR>>
<BR>> I know a lot of you are running Debian, some are running RedHat,
and
<BR>there's > a couple with other distributions.
<BR>>
<BR>> I tried several of them when I was first getting started and the
one that
<BR>> ended up staying on my machine was Slackware.&nbsp; It seemed fairly
intuitive
<BR>> for me, so I kept it.&nbsp; Since then I've set up a couple of RedHat
systems,
<BR>> and now I'm working on a Debian system.&nbsp; What I'm finding is
that almost
<BR>> everything in terms of really current stuff only comes in tarballs
and
<BR>rpms. > For example, I wanted the lasted version of XFree86, no deb
files
<BR>available > for it (except some experimental builds a Debian developer
<BR>made, which took
<BR>> awhile to locate).&nbsp; I wanted the new Gnome 1.0...rpms...no debs.
<BR>> Enlightenment?&nbsp; NO debs (well, actually debian.org had them
in the slink
<BR>> directories, but they weren't on enlightenment.org)
<BR>>
<BR>> Are all you Debian users 6 months behind on stuff (the last frozen
<BR>release)? > Are you getting source for these things and compiling them
<BR>yourself?&nbsp; Are > you running development versions of Debian (slink
(until
<BR>today), potato)? > It just seems like when there's a package manager
that
<BR>you'll eventually end > up shooting yourself in the foot if you have
to
<BR>subvert it by installing the > stuff that's not packaged in your
package <BR>system of choice.&nbsp; It also appears > that the only
packages people
are
<BR>doing of really up to the minute stuff are
<BR>> rpm packages. I like the concept of Debian.org (totally free), but
I'm
<BR>> seriously thinking about going back to RedHat because of the
availability <BR>of > current packages.&nbsp; Slackware'll keep track of
the tarball <BR>installations for > you, so that might be an option too.
<BR>>
<P>I tried redhat 4.2, and 5.0, and after getting sick of things not
working <BR>,and since i could get "support" for debian I installed debian.
<P>Yes I do wait 6 months for the newest debs, and that does kinda of annoy
<BR>me, but the reason it takes so long is that want to get as mnay bugs
out
<BR>as possible, and I admit it works. It is very stable.
<P>> Greg
<BR>>
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