[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#576) Re: Play By E-Mail - PBEM

["Paul Zastoupil" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 12:48:34PM -0700, Raimar Falke wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 12:20:21PM -0700, Per I. Mathisen wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, 28 May 2003, Raimar Falke wrote:
> > > > > Suppose we have two units from two players with full moves which see
> > > > > each other. Than the player which moves first has an advantage: he can
> > > > > decide if attack or retreat. The other player doesn't have this choice
> > > > > because either the unit attacked or is gone.
> > > >
> > > > This situation simply does not arise. When a player moves so that enemy
> > > > unit becomes visible and we become visible to it, we no longer have full
> > > > moves. If we do not have enough moves to attack it, then we screwed up
> > > > and the opponent gets the initiative to attack.
> > >
> > > The situation arises if you have a good reconnaissance.
> > 
> > In that case, it is your movement phase, and you can whack that other
> > player's unit anyway.
> > 
> > Now, if both units are at zero or insufficient movement, then the other
> > player will get to whack you instead, since he will move next. This could
> > happen, but it is a rare thing indeed, and it still does not depend on
> > which player is first to move in the turn.
> > 
> > So I just don't see where the problem is.
> 
> .......................
> ......x.y..1...........
> .......................
> 
> x and y are units of two different players. x has no moves. y moved
> from 1 to the current position. x and y now see each other. Now there
> is a new turn. Both units get full moves. Now the starting player has
> an advantage. If x starts it can decide upon the type and current HP
> of x and y if it wishes to attack or to retreat. Suppose that it
> always make the correct decision than we have:
>  - x is better than y: x attacks and y has no chance to retreat
>  - y is better than x: x retreats. If both units has the same speed y
>  can't catch x. So y can't get a chance to kill the weaker x.

But if x and y are reversed?  Doesn't y have the advantage since x is
out of moves?  It doesn't really matter with units in the field, since
the order stays consistent.  When new movement points are applied
doesn't really matter.

The only time it makes a difference is when new units are built because
that happens at "the same time" for all players.

> 
> Seems unfair for me. I didn't say that this is a common situation.
> 
>       Raimar     
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Paul Zastoupil