[Freeciv-Dev] Re: Magellans

[Raahul Kumar <raahul_da_man@xxxxxxxxx>]

--- Christian Knoke <chrisk@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 04:50:50AM -0700, Raahul Kumar wrote:
> > 
> > --- Per I Mathisen <per@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 12 May 2002, Raahul Kumar wrote:
> > > > Hi Per. I'm opposed to the change to Magellan. The current method is
> fine as far as I am concerned.
> > > 
> > > But Magellan is extreme! Giving one civ permanent monopoly on
> supercharged ships is quite absurd. It is without doubt the single most 
> powerful wonder in the game. Please reconsider.
> > > 
> > > And if you disagree, please explain why on freeciv-dev, so that others
> may voice their thoughts on the matter...
> > 
> > Ok. Wonders are all about game winning. If someone builds Magellans, he
> should gain a great benefit. Same as with all other wonders. Usually, if I 
> manage to build Adam Smith and hold off the attacks of my jealous neighbours,
> they are doomed unless they all ally against me.
> > 
> > I've never found the winner of the games I've played to be the owner of
> > Magellan. It's usually the owner of Hoover's, or Adam Smiths, or even the
> > Great Library, but almost never the owner of Magellans.And this opens a can
> > of worms. This would leave to Civ 3 style crap wonders. They would be of
> almost
> > 
> > no benefit. I like the way the game can turn depending on your wonder
> choice. It keeps me from falling asleep. Wonder choice is one of the few
> unpredictable parts of freeciv. If you take away Magellans, everyone will 
> just stick exclusively to the big 3, Adam Smiths, Hoovers and Great Library.
> > 
> > I like to see people build unexpected wonders. As is, Leonardo's is
> currently worthless. If it was more powerful, games might be decided by it. 
> Freeciv wonders are weak, not too powerful. Is there anyone out there who has
> ever won a game due to United Nations, Lighthouse, etc. Almost always it is 
> the big 3 who win games for you. Magellan's is actually weak compared to any
> of the other 3 big wonders.
> > 
> He he I use very different wonders (but I won't tell you :-)
> 
> Time for  a query on the website: "What wonders do you go for, to win the
> game?"

True. I am willing to bet Magellans will not even make the top 3, possibly not
even the top 5.

And Christian: If you don't build the big 3, how do you stay in the game?
I would expect you to die quickly.

Aloha,
RK.

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