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Subject: [Freeciv-Dev] Re: Magellans
From: Christian Knoke <chrisk@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 14:24:39 +0200

On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 04:50:50AM -0700, Raahul Kumar wrote:
> 
> --- Per I Mathisen <per@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Sun, 12 May 2002, Raahul Kumar wrote:
> > > Hi Per. I'm opposed to the change to Magellan. The current method is fine
> > > as far as I am concerned.
> > 
> > But Magellan is extreme! Giving one civ permanent monopoly on supercharged
> > ships is quite absurd. It is without doubt the single most powerful wonder
> > in the game. Please reconsider.
> > 
> > And if you disagree, please explain why on freeciv-dev, so that others may
> > voice their thoughts on the matter...
> 
> Ok. Wonders are all about game winning. If someone builds Magellans, he should
> gain a great benefit. Same as with all other wonders. Usually, if I manage to
> build Adam Smith and hold off the attacks of my jealous neighbours, they are
> doomed unless they all ally against me.
> 
> I've never found the winner of the games I've played to be the owner of
> Magellan. It's usually the owner of Hoover's, or Adam Smiths, or even the
> Great Library, but almost never the owner of Magellans.And this opens a can
> of worms. This would leave to Civ 3 style crap wonders. They would be of 
> almost
> 
> no benefit. I like the way the game can turn depending on your wonder choice.
> It keeps me from falling asleep. Wonder choice is one of the few unpredictable
> parts of freeciv. If you take away Magellans, everyone will just stick
> exclusively to the big 3, Adam Smiths, Hoovers and Great Library.
> 
> I like to see people build unexpected wonders. As is, Leonardo's is currently
> worthless. If it was more powerful, games might be decided by it. Freeciv
> wonders are weak, not too powerful. Is there anyone out there who has ever won
> a game due to United Nations, Lighthouse, etc. Almost always it is the big 3
> who win games for you. Magellan's is actually weak compared to any of the 
> other
> 3 big wonders.
> 

He he I use very different wonders (but I won't tell you :-)

Time for  a query on the website: "What wonders do you go for, to win the
game?"

Christian

BTW: If you don't like it the way it is, make your own ruleset!

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