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To: rf13@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Ross W. Wetmore" <rwetmore@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Gregory Berkolaiko <gberkolaiko@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Petr Baudis <pasky@xxxxxxxxxxx>, freeciv-dev@xxxxxxxxxxx, bugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Freeciv-Dev] Re: [PATCH] advdomestic.c cleanup (PR#1149)
From: "Ross W. Wetmore" <rwetmore@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 12:16:52 -0500

At 09:45 AM 01/12/22 +0100, Raimar Falke wrote:
>On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 08:02:47PM -0500, Ross W. Wetmore wrote:
[...]
>I don't like to force somebody. In the past I have asked for reviews
>and usually there was none. This shows to me that not many people are
>willing to spend time outside their "area of interest". This is ok. We
>are still here on a voluntary basis. However spending time outside his
>"area of interest" is something a maintainer has to do. I would really
>like to work more on the agents stuff but I spend the time I have for
>freeciv at reviewing patches. Patches which touch all other areas but
>not the agent area.

I think that by sending in their names reviewers are giving you the
pre-authorization to ask them specifically to manage a patch through
the initial cleanup stages. 

This doesn't mean that they can't indicate up front areas of interest,
or decline in specific cases for various reasons (i.e. lifestyle -
girlfriend in town this weekend :-).

By choosing a point person, you get at least one thorough review, even
if there are lots of other comments. And it helps the list in that
people don't need to do that thorough a review on every patch that
comes by, but rather can participate in the discussions that are more 
of interest, rather than having everyone shift and flow to the same
vague "wishes". 

[...]
>Another thing: a review is only worth the reputation of the
>reviewer. This reputation isn't based on how many patches the reviewer
>has reviewed but how intensive. This is hard to measure but the number
>of complains if a rough estimation. Yes every patch of a reasonable
>has errors/places which can be improved. 

Some patches have few areas to suggest improvements on because the
submitter has done a good job. Finding nits or requesting changes to 
keep the number of complaints constant is counter productive. If I
know someone will quit after 10 suggestions, I'll leave 10 bugs in for 
them to find :-).

But from the maintainer standpoint, if you have a list of peole and 
know what each can do or how they do it, then you can assign patches
accordingly, more intensive ones to the better reviewers, or in areas
where the reviewer will be more effective. Reviewers will characterize
themselves over time.

Note, reviewing is a lot of the work of maintaining with a lessened
committment to longterm responsibility, i.e. one does not have to agree
to give up a year of one's life to be a reviewer :-).

If you can't interest people in this, you won't necessarily get the 
level and type of committment needed for a maintainer.

[...]
>I'm sorry but I have to leave now. Goodbye till the first week of the
>new year.

Frohliche Weihnachten ..


>       Raimar
>-- 
> email: rf13@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> "Despite all the medical advances of the 20th century, the mortality 
>  rate remains unchanged at 1 death per person."

Cheers,
RossW
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