[Freeciv-Dev] Re: Client AI development

[Raimar Falke <hawk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:05:05AM -0500, Cameron Morland wrote:
> La 2001-04-19, Glenn Taylor skribis:
> 
> > I'd argue against this micro approach-- Brooks' subsumption architecture,
> > at least originally, suffered from a lack of goal-directed behavior, and
> > it's never been clear that the subsumption approach can scale well
> > higher than the insect level Brooks originally demonstrated.
> 
> But ants have only insect level behaviour, and yet they are quite
> successful. Under certain circumstances they will even co-operate with
> other tribes of ants, essentially having an alliance. (This was reported
> IIRC in New Scientist a few years ago.)
> 
> You can even get the idea, discussed by Hofstadter, of the ant hill being
> sentient; "Aunt Hillary" has discussions in _Godel, Escher, Bach_ with the
> anteater. We try to make intelligence emerge from chaos.
> 
> I also disagree that BB hasn't been demonstrated to scale; check out their
> more recent work on Cog, a humanoid robot which they suggest displays
> human-infant-like intelligence.
> 
> <http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/humanoid-robotics-group/>
> 
> > Why is it AI discussions always sound like religious discussions? :)
> 
> Because religion and AI are both very poorly understood

ACK.

> Ultimately the choice of the best AI is simple: let them battle it out.

ACK.

> (Actually it's not quite as simple as battling it out; requiring a Beowulf
> cluster to run "the best" AI wouldn't really be an acceptable solution.)

So BB requires a lot of computing power?

> I would actually not like to make the only AI for Freeciv, because then I
> would have no way of verifying it, except for playing against humans, and
> that takes a long time.

The first goal probably is the achieve the performance of the current
AI.

        Raimar

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