[aclug-L] Re: Linux Time-Table

[Luke Wahlmeier <howdyboby2@xxxxxxxxx>]

I don't really know what version od X you are running,
X requires very little, the GUI is the hog, try IceWM,
or TWM.  I reasently had to setup a p-90 with 16mb ram
and a 540 mb HD with linux, after some tweaking, and
usinf X3.3.6 it took it only 3 min to boot up all the
way, with auto login into IceWM.  it does swap alot,
but dillo pulls up in about 6 to 7 sec, mozilla the
first time you open it took almost a minute, but if
you do not manually clear it all out of memmory after
closing it it opens within 30 sec the 2nd time, also
depends on your settings, i turned off pretty much
every thing.  this install was made with mandrake 8.2
and took up only 250mb when i got done.  the computer
is now used to connect to a terminal server, it does
this automaticly after X is started with out loading a
gui, this is exremly fast, then boot up is less then 1
and a half min.  i did this on a test install with
vmware before i did it.  on a 933 it took less the
30sec to boot and pull up a gui.  sys logger, and
pretty much anything not needed were stoped.  it gave
me hope for the 133 i have at home, so going to try
that one in a few days.  Just remeber with linux
anything is possable, time reseach, and knowlage can
get it done.
--- Jonathan Hall <flimzy@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> The fact that X requires about 128mb RAM minimum to
> operate is a problem,
> IMO.  I can run Windows (granted, an old version,
> but it will still run
> modern applications) in 32mb and achieve nearly the
> same performance (as far
> as graphic output, not sheer number crunching).
> 
> My 486 laptop, as an old example, has 24mb RAM and
> runs Win95 "comfortably."
> It takes me about 30 seconds to open a web browser.
> 
> In X on the same system, it takes a good 5 minutes
> to open a web browser,
> due to swapping.
> 
> Granted, a 486 is not exactly a good measure of how
> modern operating systems
> should perform.  But the fact that I can run the
> latest version of most
> applications on a 486 with Windows (slowly, granted)
> but not in X, makes it
> at least a somewhat valid comparison, IMO.
> 
> 
> Of course, compared to Windows XP, X is a great
> improvement, as far as
> system requirements are concerned.  But I think
> that, too, is a flawed
> comparison, b/c Windows XP doesn't use the resources
> it consumes for
> anything useful :)
> 
> Anyway... I just don't see X as a good option for a
> general-purpose GUI.
> 
> That's not to say that OpenSource couldn't come up
> with something better :)
> 
> -- Jonathan
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Goerzen" <jgoerzen@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <discussion@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:24 PM
> Subject: [aclug-L] Re: Linux Time-Table
> 
> 
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:05:17PM -0600, Jonathan
> Hall wrote:
> > > Free software, maybe.  I don't think Linux
> should do it.  Call me
> > > old-fassioned... but I like Linux on my servers.
>  It's doesn't make an
> > > effecient desktop OS though.
> >
> > What do you think makes it inefficient?
> >
> > > Perhaps if we get away from X, that could
> change.
> >
> > XFree86 is really a pretty slick system these
> days.  Applications running
> > atop a modern XFree86 installation will do a lot
> better than those running
> > on a plain vanilla X11R6 installation.
> >
> > Of course, XFree86 is now doing more to advance
> the state of the art of X
> > than the X Consortium / TOG is.
> >
> > The GNUstep people are also making a lot of nice
> progress.  GNUstep does
> run
> > atop X, and yet it achieves a lot of the advanced
> rendering capabilities
> > that are available on NeXT and MacOS X
> environment.  Sorta a best of both
> > worlds thing.
> >
> > -- John
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