[Freeciv] Re: FreecivNG (Re: Freeciv goals)

[Lalo Martins <lalo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Mar 01, 2000 at 09:34:34AM +0100, Reinier Post wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 10:51:02PM -0300, Lalo Martins wrote:
> 
> This point has been made before: Civ II provides a common focus.
> Every deviation from Civ II needs to be agreed on, designed,
> playtested, all in the hope of finding a sufficient number

Yes, I realize that. But the number of players grows every day,
who knows?


> I'd love to be on the board of that committee (for the same reason as
> you), but without actual coders and actual playtesters you're going to
> get nowhere.

I think there are acutal coders interested. But we now want to
focus them on civ2 compatibility...


> > - new units, wherever this makes sense (mostly ultratech, it
> > seems, but not necessarily)
> 
> Let's try the possibilities of the existing rulesets first.

This would likely happen using rulesets anyway.


> > - make it possible for a city to physically grow for very very
> > large populations
> 
> One idea would be to grow the city area with city size.
> This has been discussed on the list before.

Yes, like all other item I listed.


> > - ocean:
> > 
> >   - chunnels and landfill (transforming between ocean and land)
> >   - bridges and tunnels (kind of building railroad on ocean)
> >   - submarine cities
> 
> What I'd like to see is ocean-to-swamp transformation, a simple
> addition that could have a major impact on the game.

This was my original proposal (along with swamp-to-ocean),
which originated the whole discussion.


> > - winning/losing the game:
> > 
> >   - cultural domination (makes cities spontaneously change sides)
> 
> Required for Civ I compatibility.

Of course, actual "cultural domination" means more than just
that; it's a _reason_ for cities to change sides...


> >   - economical domination (to do with valutas, inflation,
> >   exchange rates and all these beasts)
> 
> How does this improve the game?

By creating new ways to win.



Oh, and I forgot one "Freeciv mode" item:

- "geek" wonders (Internet, Freeciv, etc)

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