[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#13936) Improved Russian nation

["Daniel Markstedt" <himasaram@xxxxxxxx>]

<URL: http://bugs.freeciv.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=13936 >


On 2005-09-11, at 10.13, Egor Vyscrebentsov wrote:
>
> Please, take a look at  
> http://lists.complete.org/freeciv-data@xxxxxxxxxxx/2004/12/ 
> msg00000.html.gz
> and follow-ups.
>

Incorporated many changes from that thread. A Soviet nation would be  
nice, but it would require the creation of new nation group: Neither  
Modern nor Medieval fits. I has been thinking about a "Colonial" group  
before (for Boer etc), but Soviet would fit better in "WW2", "Cold War"  
or something.

> DM>The changes are in order:
> DM>
> DM>- Expanded legend.
>
> If you know russian, you may look into translation of the legend in  
> ru.po.
> (My translation from russian to english is horrible, so i'm just  
> afraid to
> translate it back)
>

Sorry, my Russian is nonexistent. If you give a rough translation, I  
can try to clean it up. I rephrased my legend a little, to make it more  
neutral. What do you think?

> DM>- Native Russian leader names, using the same transliteration  
> method as
> DM>in the city names (see
> DM>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ 
> Transliteration_of_Russian_into_English)
> DM>Please note that I'm NOT removing Roman numerals this time!
> DM>
> DM>- Added Putin as leader.
>
> Hm, I'd prefer not to add current persons into rulesets.
>

I thought he was a good representative of modern non-Soviet Russia. But  
removed for now. In fact, I borrowed the entire leader list from your  
nation file and added comment about other spellings etc.

> DM>- Fixed bug in ruler_titles tag
> DM>
> DM>- Czar/Czarina -> Tsar/Tsaritsa (native spellings) and moved to
> DM>Despotism. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar and
> DM>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsarina)
>
> Heh, for Despotism 'Knyaz' and 'Knyaginya' would be better, IMHO.
>
> DM>- Added Imperator/Imperatritsa title for Monarchy (see
> DM>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperator#Post-Roman_use)
>
> Do we realy want to transliterate? These titles are translated  
> anyway...
>

I'm going with your suggestions here.

> DM>- Added latvian as a ciliwar nation.
> DM>
> DM>- St. Petersburg -> Sankt-Peterburg (native spelling) and moved it  
> down
> DM>the city list, since it is a late (18th century) Russian city. (See
> DM>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg)
>
> There was a doc somewhere in an old freeciv site about city ordering.
> Old capitals have a big advantage. (Well, there was a perl script for  
> ordering)
> And, of course, SPb is (at least) no. 2 city for russian ;)
> And, yeah, Petrozavodsk, Rostov[-na-Donu] are not older than SPb.
> Uralsk is in Kazakhstan.
>

SPb is the second city of modern Russia. However, this ruleset is for  
medieval Russia as well, that's why I moved it down the list. With some  
reordering according to your comment. Added all additional cities from  
your version of city list. Noticed that it removes the city "Uralsk":  
Is that not an appropriate city?

Rostov and Rostov-na-Donu is two different cities. Should both be in  
city list perhaps?

Daniel

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