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Subject: Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Races ruleset - patch
From: Paul Zastoupil <paulz@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 07:59:41 -0700

Ed Cogburn wrote:
> 
> Reinier Post wrote:
> >
> > > I didn't say Czechs were Germans, just the country was
> > > (sometimes only theoreticly) part of Germany.
> >
> > No, it never was.
> 
>         Well, technically he is correct.  In 1938, the Munich agreement
> allowed Hitler to annex the Sudetenland portion of
> Czechoslovakia.  A year later, it was dissolved alltogether after
> Hitler took it over.  The Bohemia and Moravia portions of
> Czechoslovakia were made into German protectorates, Slovakia was
> made pseudo-independent, and the Ruthenia portion was given to
> Hungary.  From 1939 to 1945, there was no Czechoslovakia.  Unlike
> other nations which Germany conquered during WW2 later on (and
> were treated as conquered nations), Czechoslovakia and Austria
> were treated differently.  Austria was totally assimilated as a
> part of Germany and Czechoslovakia was broken up and partially
> assimilated by Germany and Hungary.
>         We may not like it, but if we were making freeciv at this time
> ('39-'45) we would have to legitimately call Prague (and Vienna) a
> (Nazi) German city (not populated by Germans, but definitely under
> total German control).  If at some point in the future, freeciv is
> given the ability to distinguish between native and conquered
> populations, then Prague can be shown as a conquered people.
>         This is the kind of problem we'll run into if we try to keep 3
> different types of nations in freeciv (ancient, historical and
> 'modern').  When we have the underlying support, we should really
> consider having multiple nation 'sets', i.e. Ancient and Modern,
> plus Historical sets like one for WW2 for example.  The WW2 'set',
> perhaps for a WW2 scenario, would have Nazi Germany (Nazi flag,
> leader is Hitler, cities include those of Austria and
> Czechoslovakia) and USSR (USSR flag, leader is Stalin, cities
> include those of Ukraine, the Baltic states, and the Caucasus
> states, and USSR city name versions of Leningrad and Stalingrad,
> etc.).
> 

But the point in freeciv is that the Germans did not "settle" Prague. 
So it shouldn't be a part of the German city names.

-- 
Paul Zastoupil

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