[aclug-L] Re: [announce] Next Meeting Wednesday Feb 6

[Tom Hull <thull@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Got this after I wrote my little missive. But, another two cents ...

Jeff Vian wrote:
> 
> >From the number of complaints it seems many people are upset.
> 
> Why then the following ?
>         1.  only 6 responses to Clint when he asked for input on what would be
> best for everyone.  More people complained about the announcement that
> responded to his request.

Assuming you meant that form, I have to admit I got so flustered with it that
I just threw my hands up. Just a buncha options on meeting times, which is
kinda secondary to whether the meetings themselves are worthwhile. Or even
whether there should be meetings. The survey I'd like to see is:

 1) What do you want an organization like ACLUG to do for you?

 2) What can you do to help your fellow Linux users?

>         2.  This is a committee run organization.  If you are a member and 
> want
> to participate it is your responsibility to speek up and let your needs
> be known. If you do not actively participate then YOU are to blame if
> the group does not respond to your needs.

Sure. But note that while this more/less works for email, it doesn't work
for meetings. Why is that? Probably something to do with marginal utility.
I mean, the 4-5 days I spent writing up a handout for my C programming
presentation didn't exactly inspire [name deleted] to spend more than 10
minutes preparing his own notes on Zope, now did it?

>         3.  There have been several requests in the recent past for ideas for
> meeting topics and guidance for what you, the members, want the group to
> do for you.  If your responses to those are as sparse as your responses
> to the recent survey and the request for ideas about what day would be
> best for you for meetings then once again,  you would rather bitch than
> participate.

Hey, bitching is participating!

> Members, This is your group.  Clint has done a lot for a FREE
> organization and all he ever gets is complaints on this list.  Maybe one
> of you can do better, and MAYBE the group will participate instead of
> trying to find somneone to blame because it does not go their way.
> 
> This group is a great idea but it depends on the participation of the
> members to make it a great organization.
> 
> Jeff

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