[aclug-L] Re: I am a smeghead (Letter of apology)

[James <pantherace13@xxxxxxxxx>]

"James G." wrote:

> I am all for opinions, but then again you have to remind yourself sometimes
> that there may be up to 200 people on the mailing list reading all that is
> said. It's one thing to make fun of the company you work for sometimes....
> , it's another to take out a full page ad in the Wichita Eagle and tell the
> whole world the same exact stuff.
>
> What you said wasn't all that bad, just how you said it. It's not a bad
> opinion to think that in ways ACLUG lacks a little attention to beginners.
> Some people think this, some not. It's not against the law to think this.
> We still don't have mind police in America, at least not yet.
>
> Some good came from what you did. It gave a lot of people something to
> comment on which might have went un-discused if you didn't do what you did.
> For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The reaction was
> huge, and was not all negative.
>

I will finally add my $.02 to this discussion.

I think the reason that many of the people think that ACLUG does not cater to
newbies is because it doesn't really. I see that the reason may be that you
all (original ACLUG) started out together as mostly newbies. Those newbies
have now done one of 2 things, 1) become gurus (or experenced users at least)
2) left.

It problably started out where you were "all" newbies who started moving on to
a little more advanced items, and a little more, until now where either
newbies learn very quickly(as I have done), or leave.

There was something similar earlier, but this is my version of the idea.

I think that a sister group that starts with basically all newbies and starts
working up might be a good idea, and if some of the gurus drop in to give
presentations sometimes, then all the better. But, it should basically be a
seperate group whose members  organize things and go on their own voyage of
discovery. The ACLUG should try to recrute as many people from the community
as possible, and get them together and let them go on pretty much their own.

If this is not really an accurate discription of how ACLUG advanced then
please tell me. Even if it is not, the idea might be worth considering.

James L


>
> As to mimicking other peoples opinion and not being genuine, that's tough.
> Almost everyone suffers from that. In fact, the story of the "Emperors New
> Clothes" is one of my favorites because even though it's a simple story,
> there is a ton of truth in it (in our case, Bill Gates is the naked
> Emperor).
>
> So you see.... when I write something here, I try to imagine 200 people
> listening. Sometimes I mess up and get criticized for something I wrote
> after an alternate meaning is attached by someone else (which I did not
> originally intend for to happen). It happens to everyone it seems.
> Sometimes it's better just to shut up unless you really believe strongly in
> what you're saying and are willing to get dumped on later for it.
>
> Perhaps it would be better (and more sincere) to explain what it is you're
> sorry about. Are you sorry because you think more should be done for Linux
> newbies, or sorry because of something else you did or said.
>
> I am sort of stretching this out a little because I believe only I would
> put it in these words. So "I did what I thought" was best.
>
> James G.
>
> P.S. One thing that came about out of all this was a discussion on having a
> large Linux Fair for Wichita. In a way, I think this might be better than
> having a beginners night because it would raise the awareness about Linux
> in Wichita and be a way for business people to exchange business cards with
> each other. It would be a way to get people to help each other without
> taxing the limited amount of ACLUG resources.  We could have our cake and
> eat it too.
>
> "Patrick R. Klee" wrote:
>
> > Dear ACLUG membrers,
> >     I Patrick Klee, admit major stupidity on the fact that I was going
> > on other peoples opinions and wasn't seeing the whole picture.  I am
> > WHOLLY SORRY, and a smeghead.  You guys are handsome and good looking,
> > I am hideously deformed and sound like a woman.  Anyway, I apologize
> > again for all trouble caused, and feel after a long hiatus, I would like
> > to know if I am still welcome into the group.  I am a smeghead.
> >
> > Sincerely
> > Smeghead.
> >
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