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When I was installing RedHat 5.1 it only asked for what monitor I have. The card is a Diamond 3D Graphics and I think it is an S3 Virge. The installation probe found it and it's working. I wonder if I could look in the files and find the driver it's using. Someone would have to tell me where it is, though. I'd be happy to look if it would help. jeff2 At 10:09 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: there is a particular driver for the S2 Virge. maybe i should try the generic S3 :-/ Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:Is it a generic s3? At 09:43 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >started with S3 trio 3D, now i have a S3 Virge /dx, both 4 meg. > >the Virge is better than the trio 3D. > >i may have to do like you say but first i'm going to try to make thiswork.> >i got better colors and a bigger screen from my old S3 trio 64 -2 megcard> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: > >> Don't you think it would be good enough to just tell them at National >that > the S3 is giving you trouble? > >i already did that once > >> You might even put on an incensed look > >did that > >> and >> tell them what a piece of junk it was and how you'll only use Matroxfrom > >> now on.> >that's next on the list if this won't work > >> :-) What card did you buy? >> >> jeff2 >> At 09:16 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >ouch, >> > >> >i'm still in the 50 dollar market. >> >especially after everything i just spent on this box >> > >> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >> > >> >> They were about $125 when they were new, but should besubstantially>> >> cheaper now. My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no >> >> retailer. Command Computer might have a used one. It was pretty >> >popular. >> >> >> >> jeff2 >> >> >> >> At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a >card. >> >> > >> >> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >> >> > >> >> >how much do they run (approx) >> >> > >> >> >phrostie >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should befairly > >> >> >> inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and they > >work > >> >like > a champ in Linux.>> >> >> >> >> >> jeff2 >> >> >> >> >> >> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with neverany > >> >> >> >trouble.>> >> >> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video >card. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.it>> >> >> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >is there something i need to upgrade? >> >> >> >is there a trick? >> >> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >do any of the new S3's work? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >> >> >supported. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >what happened? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time >ago. >> >> >> >i thought that was fixed >> >> >> > >> >> >> >-- >> >> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >> >> >>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with neverany > >> >> >trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg > >> >video > >card.>> >> >> > >> >> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.it>> >> >doesn't >> >> >> >work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >is there something i need to upgrade? >> >> >> >is there a trick? >> >> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >do any of the new S3's work? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >> >supported. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >what happened? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time >ago. >> >> >> >i thought that was fixed >> >> >> >-- >> >> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a >card. >> >> > >> >> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >> >> > >> >> >how much do they run (approx) >> >> > >> >> >phrostie >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >> >> >>I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >> >> >>inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and they >work > >like > >>a champ in Linux. >> >> >> >> >> >>jeff2 >> >> >> >> >> >>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with neverany > >> >> >>>trouble.>> >> >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video >card. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.it>> >> >>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>is there something i need to upgrade? >> >> >>>is there a trick? >> >> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>do any of the new S3's work? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >> >>>supported. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>what happened? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time >ago. >> >> >>>i thought that was fixed >> >> >>> >> >> >>>-- >> >> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >> >>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with neverany > >> >trouble. > >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg > >> >video card.>> >> >>> >> >> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.it>> >doesn't >> >> >>>work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>is there something i need to upgrade? >> >> >>>is there a trick? >> >> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>do any of the new S3's work? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >supported. >> >> >>> >> >> >>>what happened? >> >> >>> >> >> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time >ago. >> >> >>>i thought that was fixed >> >> >>>-- >> >> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >> > >> >> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >-- >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >ouch, >> > >> >i'm still in the 50 dollar market. >> >especially after everything i just spent on this box >> > >> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >> >>They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially >> >>cheaper now. My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no >> >>retailer. Command Computer might have a used one. It was pretty >popular. >> >> >> >>jeff2 >> >> >> >>At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get acard.>> >>> >> >>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >> >>> >> >>>how much do they run (approx) >> >>> >> >>>phrostie >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >> >>>> inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and they >work > >>>like > a champ in Linux. >> >>>> >> >>>> jeff2 >> >>>> >> >>>> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with neverany > >> >>>> >trouble.>> >>>> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video >card. >> >>>> > >> >>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.it>> >>>> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >>>> > >> >>>> >is there something i need to upgrade? >> >>>> >is there a trick? >> >>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >>>> > >> >>>> >do any of the new S3's work? >> >>>> > >> >>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >>>> >supported. >> >>>> > >> >>>> >what happened? >> >>>> > >> >>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time >ago. >> >>>> >i thought that was fixed >> >>>> > >> >>>> >-- >> >>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>>> > >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with neverany > >> >>>trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg > >video > >>>card.>> >>>> > >> >>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.it>> >>>doesn't >> >>>> >work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >>>> > >> >>>> >is there something i need to upgrade? >> >>>> >is there a trick? >> >>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >>>> > >> >>>> >do any of the new S3's work? >> >>>> > >> >>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >>>supported. >> >>>> > >> >>>> >what happened? >> >>>> > >> >>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time >ago. >> >>>> >i thought that was fixed >> >>>> >-- >> >>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> >> >>>-- >> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get acard.>> >>> >> >>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >> >>> >> >>>how much do they run (approx) >> >>> >> >>>phrostie >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >> >>>>I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >> >>>>inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and they >work >> >>>>like >> >>>>a champ in Linux. >> >>>> >> >>>>jeff2 >> >>>> >> >>>>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >> >>>>>trouble. >> >>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>> >>>>> >> >>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >> >>>>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>is there something i need to upgrade? >> >>>>>is there a trick? >> >>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>do any of the new S3's work? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >>>>>supported. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>what happened? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>> >>>>>i thought that was fixed >> >>>>> >> >>>>>-- >> >>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>>>> >><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>h>t >> >>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >> >>>>>trouble. >> >>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>> >>>>> >> >>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >doesn't >> >>>>>work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>is there something i need to upgrade? >> >>>>>is there a trick? >> >>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>do any of the new S3's work? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >supported. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>what happened? >> >>>>> >> >>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>> >>>>>i thought that was fixed >> >>>>>-- >> >>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>h>t >> >>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>> >> >>>-- >> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>> >> >>>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >-- >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> > >> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> > >> > > >-- >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html > > > > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >started with S3 trio 3D, now i have a S3 Virge /dx, both 4 meg. > >the Virge is better than the trio 3D. > >i may have to do like you say but first i'm going to try to make thiswork.> >i got better colors and a bigger screen from my old S3 trio 64 -2 megcard> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>Don't you think it would be good enough to just tell them at Nationalthat > >>the S3 is giving you trouble?>i already did that once >>You might even put on an incensed look >did that >>and >>tell them what a piece of junk it was and how you'll only use Matroxfrom > >>now on.>that's next on the list if this won't work >>:-) What card did you buy? >> >>jeff2 >>At 09:16 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>ouch, >>> >>>i'm still in the 50 dollar market. >>>especially after everything i just spent on this box >>> >>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>> >>>> They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially >>>> cheaper now. My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no >>>> retailer. Command Computer might have a used one. It was pretty >>>popular. >>>> >>>> jeff2 >>>> >>>> At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get acard.>>>> > >>>> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >>>> > >>>> >how much do they run (approx) >>>> > >>>> >phrostie >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >>>> >> inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and theywork > >>>> >like > a champ in Linux.>>>> >> >>>> >> jeff2 >>>> >> >>>> >> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with neverany > >>>> >> >trouble.>>>> >> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>>>> >> > >>>> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.it>>>> >> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >is there something i need to upgrade? >>>> >> >is there a trick? >>>> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>> >> > >>>> >> >do any of the new S3's work? >>>> >> > >>>> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>> >> >supported. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >what happened? >>>> >> > >>>> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>> >> >i thought that was fixed >>>> >> > >>>> >> >-- >>>> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>> >> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with neverany > >>>> >trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg > >>>video > >card.>>>> >> > >>>> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.it>>>> >doesn't >>>> >> >work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >is there something i need to upgrade? >>>> >> >is there a trick? >>>> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>> >> > >>>> >> >do any of the new S3's work? >>>> >> > >>>> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>> >supported. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >what happened? >>>> >> > >>>> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>> >> >i thought that was fixed >>>> >> >-- >>>> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>> >> > >>>> >> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> > >>>> >-- >>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get acard.>>>> > >>>> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >>>> > >>>> >how much do they run (approx) >>>> > >>>> >phrostie >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>>> >>I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >>>> >>inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and theywork > >>>like > >>a champ in Linux.>>>> >> >>>> >>jeff2 >>>> >> >>>> >>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>> >>>trouble. >>>> >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>>>> >>> >>>> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>> >>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>is there something i need to upgrade? >>>> >>>is there a trick? >>>> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>> >>> >>>> >>>do any of the new S3's work? >>>> >>> >>>> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>> >>>supported. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>what happened? >>>> >>> >>>> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>> >>>i thought that was fixed >>>> >>> >>>> >>>-- >>>> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>> >>> >>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht>>>> tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>trouble. > >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg >>>video card. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>doesn't >>>> >>>work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>is there something i need to upgrade? >>>> >>>is there a trick? >>>> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>> >>> >>>> >>>do any of the new S3's work? >>>> >>> >>>> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>supported. >>>> >>> >>>> >>>what happened? >>>> >>> >>>> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>> >>>i thought that was fixed >>>> >>>-- >>>> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht>>>> tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> > >>>> >-- >>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>> > >>>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>-- >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>ouch, >>> >>>i'm still in the 50 dollar market. >>>especially after everything i just spent on this box >>> >>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>>>They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially >>>>cheaper now. My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no >>>>retailer. Command Computer might have a used one. It was prettypopular.>>>> >>>>jeff2 >>>> >>>>At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >>>>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get acard.>>>>> >>>>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >>>>> >>>>>how much do they run (approx) >>>>> >>>>>phrostie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >>>>>> inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and theywork > >>>>>like > a champ in Linux.>>>>>> >>>>>> jeff2 >>>>>> >>>>>> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>>>> >trouble. >>>>>> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>>>>>> > >>>>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>>>> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >is there something i need to upgrade? >>>>>> >is there a trick? >>>>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>>>> > >>>>>> >do any of the new S3's work? >>>>>> > >>>>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>>>> >supported. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >what happened? >>>>>> > >>>>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>>>> >i thought that was fixed >>>>>> > >>>>>> >-- >>>>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>>> > >>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>>>trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg >>>>>video >>>>>card. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>>>doesn't >>>>>> >work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >is there something i need to upgrade? >>>>>> >is there a trick? >>>>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>>>> > >>>>>> >do any of the new S3's work? >>>>>> > >>>>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>>>supported. >>>>>> > >>>>>> >what happened? >>>>>> > >>>>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>>>> >i thought that was fixed >>>>>> >-- >>>>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get acard.>>>>> >>>>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >>>>> >>>>>how much do they run (approx) >>>>> >>>>>phrostie >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>>>>>I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >>>>>>inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and theywork>>>>>>like >>>>>>a champ in Linux. >>>>>> >>>>>>jeff2 >>>>>> >>>>>>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>>>>>trouble. >>>>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>>>>>>> >>>>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>>>>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>is there something i need to upgrade? >>>>>>>is there a trick? >>>>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>do any of the new S3's work? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>>>>>supported. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>what happened? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>>>>>i thought that was fixed >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht>>>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>>>>>trouble. >>>>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>>>>>>> >>>>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>>>>>doesn't >>>>>>>work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>is there something i need to upgrade? >>>>>>>is there a trick? >>>>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>do any of the new S3's work? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>>>>>supported. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>what happened? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>>>>>i thought that was fixed >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht>>>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>> >>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>-- >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>> >>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>> >>> > >-- >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. > >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html > >-- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> there is a particular driver for the S2 Virge. maybe i should try the generic S3 :-/ Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:Is it a generic s3? At 09:43 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:started with S3 trio 3D, now i have a S3 Virge /dx, both 4 meg. the Virge is better than the trio 3D. i may have to do like you say but first i'm going to try to make this work. i got better colors and a bigger screen from my old S3 trio 64 -2 meg card Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:Don't you think it would be good enough to just tell them at Nationalthat > the S3 is giving you trouble? i already did that onceYou might even put on an incensed lookdid thatand tell them what a piece of junk it was and how you'll only use Matrox from now on.that's next on the list if this won't work:-) What card did you buy? jeff2 At 09:16 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >ouch, > >i'm still in the 50 dollar market. >especially after everything i just spent on this box > >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: > >> They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially >> cheaper now. My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no >> retailer. Command Computer might have a used one. It was pretty >popular. >> >> jeff2 >> >> At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get acard.>> > >> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >> > >> >how much do they run (approx) >> > >> >phrostie >> > >> > >> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >> > >> >> I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >> >> inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and theywork > >> >like > a champ in Linux.>> >> >> >> jeff2 >> >> >> >> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >> >> >trouble. >> >> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>> >> > >> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >> >> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >> > >> >> >is there something i need to upgrade? >> >> >is there a trick? >> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >> > >> >> >do any of the new S3's work? >> >> > >> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >> >supported. >> >> > >> >> >what happened? >> >> > >> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>> >> >i thought that was fixed >> >> > >> >> >-- >> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >> >trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg >video > >card. >> >> > >> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >> >doesn't >> >> >work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >> > >> >> >is there something i need to upgrade? >> >> >is there a trick? >> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >> > >> >> >do any of the new S3's work? >> >> > >> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >supported. >> >> > >> >> >what happened? >> >> > >> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>> >> >i thought that was fixed >> >> >-- >> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >> > >> >> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >-- >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get acard.>> > >> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >> > >> >how much do they run (approx) >> > >> >phrostie >> > >> > >> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >> >>I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >> >>inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and theywork > >like > >>a champ in Linux.>> >> >> >>jeff2 >> >> >> >>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >> >>>trouble. >> >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>> >>> >> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >> >>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >>> >> >>>is there something i need to upgrade? >> >>>is there a trick? >> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >>> >> >>>do any of the new S3's work? >> >>> >> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >>>supported. >> >>> >> >>>what happened? >> >>> >> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>> >>>i thought that was fixed >> >>> >> >>>-- >> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >trouble. > >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg >video card. >> >>> >> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >doesn't >> >>>work as a S3, only SVGA. >> >>> >> >>>is there something i need to upgrade? >> >>>is there a trick? >> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> >>> >> >>>do any of the new S3's work? >> >>> >> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >supported. >> >>> >> >>>what happened? >> >>> >> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>> >>>i thought that was fixed >> >>>-- >> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>> >> >>>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>> >>> >> >>> >> > >> >-- >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> > >> > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >> > >> > > >-- >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html > > > > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >ouch, > >i'm still in the 50 dollar market. >especially after everything i just spent on this box > >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially >>cheaper now. My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no >>retailer. Command Computer might have a used one. It was prettypopular.>> >>jeff2 >> >>At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card. >>> >>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >>> >>>how much do they run (approx) >>> >>>phrostie >>> >>> >>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>> >>>> I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >>>> inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and theywork > >>>like > a champ in Linux.>>>> >>>> jeff2 >>>> >>>> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>> >trouble. >>>> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg videocard.>>>> > >>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>> > >>>> >is there something i need to upgrade? >>>> >is there a trick? >>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>> > >>>> >do any of the new S3's work? >>>> > >>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>> >supported. >>>> > >>>> >what happened? >>>> > >>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>> >i thought that was fixed >>>> > >>>> >-- >>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4megvideo > >>>card.>>>> > >>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>doesn't >>>> >work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>> > >>>> >is there something i need to upgrade? >>>> >is there a trick? >>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>> > >>>> >do any of the new S3's work? >>>> > >>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>supported. >>>> > >>>> >what happened? >>>> > >>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long timeago.>>>> >i thought that was fixed >>>> >-- >>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>> > >>>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>>> > >>>> > >>> >>>-- >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.>>> <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card. >>> >>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. >>> >>>how much do they run (approx) >>> >>>phrostie >>> >>> >>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>>>I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly >>>>inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and theywork>>>>like >>>>a champ in Linux. >>>> >>>>jeff2 >>>> >>>>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >>>> >>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>>>trouble. >>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card. >>>>> >>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>>> >>>>>is there something i need to upgrade? >>>>>is there a trick? >>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>>> >>>>>do any of the new S3's work? >>>>> >>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>>>supported. >>>>> >>>>>what happened? >>>>> >>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago. >>>>>i thought that was fixed >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>>< http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>>>trouble. >>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card. >>>>> >>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. itdoesn't>>>>>work as a S3, only SVGA. >>>>> >>>>>is there something i need to upgrade? >>>>>is there a trick? >>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>>>> >>>>>do any of the new S3's work? >>>>> >>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the mostsupported.>>>>> >>>>>what happened? >>>>> >>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago. >>>>>i thought that was fixed >>>>>-- >>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>> >>>>>< http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>>-- >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>>>> <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>>> >>> > >-- >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. > > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html > >-- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> started with S3 trio 3D, now i have a S3 Virge /dx, both 4 meg. the Virge is better than the trio 3D. i may have to do like you say but first i'm going to try to make this work. i got better colors and a bigger screen from my old S3 trio 64 -2 meg card Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:Don't you think it would be good enough to just tell them at National that the S3 is giving you trouble?i already did that onceYou might even put on an incensed lookdid thatand tell them what a piece of junk it was and how you'll only use Matrox from now on.that's next on the list if this won't work:-) What card did you buy? jeff2 At 09:16 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:ouch, i'm still in the 50 dollar market. especially after everything i just spent on this box Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially cheaper now. My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no retailer. Command Computer might have a used one. It was prettypopular.jeff2 At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card. > >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. > >how much do they run (approx) > >phrostie > > >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: > >> I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly>> inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and they work>like > a champ in Linux. >> >> jeff2 >> >> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >> >trouble.>> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.>> > >> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >> > >> >is there something i need to upgrade? >> >is there a trick? >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> > >> >do any of the new S3's work? >> > >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >> >supported. >> > >> >what happened? >> >>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.>> >i thought that was fixed >> > >> >-- >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.>> > <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4megvideo > >card.>> > >> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >doesn't >> >work as a S3, only SVGA. >> > >> >is there something i need to upgrade? >> >is there a trick? >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >> > >> >do any of the new S3's work? >> > >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >supported. >> > >> >what happened? >> >>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.>> >i thought that was fixed >> >-- >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> >>> > <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>> > >> > > >-- >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.> <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> > > > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card. > >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. > >how much do they run (approx) > >phrostie > > >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote: >>I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly>>inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and they worklike > >>a champ in Linux.>> >>jeff2 >> >>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >>>trouble. >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card. >>> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. >>> >>>is there something i need to upgrade? >>>is there a trick? >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>> >>>do any of the new S3's work? >>> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >>>supported. >>> >>>what happened? >>> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago. >>>i thought that was fixed >>> >>>-- >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>>< http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never anytrouble. > >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.>>> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. itdoesn't>>>work as a S3, only SVGA. >>> >>>is there something i need to upgrade? >>>is there a trick? >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? >>> >>>do any of the new S3's work? >>> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the mostsupported.>>> >>>what happened? >>> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago. >>>i thought that was fixed >>>-- >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >>> >>>< http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html >>> >>> > >-- >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >> <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> >-- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.<http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> ouch, i'm still in the 50 dollar market. especially after everything i just spent on this box Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially cheaper now. My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm noretailer. Command Computer might have a used one. It was pretty popular.jeff2 At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card. i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. how much do they run (approx) phrostie Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairlyinexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and they worklike > a champ in Linux.jeff2 At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote: >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any >trouble. >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card. > >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. > >is there something i need to upgrade? >is there a trick? >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? > >do any of the new S3's work? > >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most >supported. > >what happened? > >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago. >i thought that was fixed > >-- >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. >< http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.htmlhttp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> > > > > ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never anytrouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.> >i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. itdoesn't>work as a S3, only SVGA. > >is there something i need to upgrade? >is there a trick? >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? > >do any of the new S3's work? > >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the mostsupported.> >what happened? > >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago. >i thought that was fixed >-- >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. > >< http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.htmlhttp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html> >-- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.< http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card. i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again. how much do they run (approx) phrostie Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:I like Matrox. The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly inexpensive these days. Maybe National has one of those and they work like a champ in Linux. jeff2 At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any trouble. when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card. i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. is there something i need to upgrade? is there a trick? do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? do any of the new S3's work? the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most supported. what happened? i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago. i thought that was fixed -- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. < http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.htm l <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any trouble. when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card. i got a S3 trio 3D. didn't work. i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX. it doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA. is there something i need to upgrade? is there a trick? do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand? do any of the new S3's work? the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most supported. what happened? i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago. i thought that was fixed -- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. < http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.htm l-- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.< http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html-- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.<http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html-- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html-- phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings. http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
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