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Subject: Re: [aclug-L] S3 blues
From: phrostie <phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 09:43:14 -0500
Reply-to: aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
started with S3 trio 3D, now i have a S3 Virge /dx, both 4 meg.

the Virge is better than the trio 3D.

i may have to do like you say but first i'm going to try to make this work.

i got better colors and a bigger screen from my old S3 trio 64  -2 meg card

Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:

Don't you think it would be good enough to just tell them at National that
the S3 is giving you trouble?
i already did that once
You might even put on an incensed look
did that
and
tell them what a piece of junk it was and how you'll only use Matrox from
now on.
that's next on the list if this won't work
:-)  What card did you buy?

jeff2
At 09:16 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:

>ouch,
>
>i'm still in the 50 dollar market.
>especially after everything i just spent on this box
>
>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>
>> They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially
>> cheaper now.  My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no
>> retailer.  Command Computer might have a used one.  It was pretty
>popular.
>>
>> jeff2
>>
>> At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>> >
>> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>> >
>> >how much do they run (approx)
>> >
>> >phrostie
>> >
>> >
>> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>> >
>> >> I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>> >> inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they work
>> >like > a champ in Linux.
>> >>
>> >> jeff2
>> >>
>> >> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >> >trouble.
>> >> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>> >> >
>> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >> >
>> >> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >> >is there a trick?
>> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >> >
>> >> >do any of the new S3's work?
>> >> >
>> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >> >supported.
>> >> >
>> >> >what happened?
>> >> >
>> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>> >> >i thought that was fixed
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg
>video > >card.
>> >> >
>> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >doesn't
>> >> >work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >> >
>> >> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >> >is there a trick?
>> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >> >
>> >> >do any of the new S3's work?
>> >> >
>> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >supported.
>> >> >
>> >> >what happened?
>> >> >
>> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>> >> >i thought that was fixed
>> >> >--
>> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>> >
>> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>> >
>> >how much do they run (approx)
>> >
>> >phrostie
>> >
>> >
>> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>> >>I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>> >>inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they work
>like > >>a champ in Linux.
>> >>
>> >>jeff2
>> >>
>> >>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >>>trouble.
>> >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>> >>>
>> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >>>
>> >>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >>>is there a trick?
>> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >>>
>> >>>do any of the new S3's work?
>> >>>
>> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >>>supported.
>> >>>
>> >>>what happened?
>> >>>
>> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>> >>>i thought that was fixed
>> >>>
>> >>>--
>> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>trouble. > >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg
>video card.
>> >>>
>> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>doesn't
>> >>>work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >>>
>> >>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >>>is there a trick?
>> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >>>
>> >>>do any of the new S3's work?
>> >>>
>> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>supported.
>> >>>
>> >>>what happened?
>> >>>
>> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>> >>>i thought that was fixed
>> >>>--
>> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >--
>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >
>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >
>> >
>
>--
>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>
>
>
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>ouch,
>
>i'm still in the 50 dollar market.
>especially after everything i just spent on this box
>
>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially
>>cheaper now.  My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no
>>retailer.  Command Computer might have a used one.  It was pretty popular.
>>
>>jeff2
>>
>>At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>>>
>>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>>>
>>>how much do they run (approx)
>>>
>>>phrostie
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>>>> inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they work
>>>like > a champ in Linux.
>>>>
>>>> jeff2
>>>>
>>>> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>> >trouble.
>>>> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>>>> >
>>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>> >
>>>> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>> >is there a trick?
>>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>> >
>>>> >do any of the new S3's work?
>>>> >
>>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>> >supported.
>>>> >
>>>> >what happened?
>>>> >
>>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>> >i thought that was fixed
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>> > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video
>>>card.
>>>> >
>>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>doesn't
>>>> >work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>> >
>>>> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>> >is there a trick?
>>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>> >
>>>> >do any of the new S3's work?
>>>> >
>>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>supported.
>>>> >
>>>> >what happened?
>>>> >
>>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>> >i thought that was fixed
>>>> >--
>>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>
>>>--
>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>>>
>>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>>>
>>>how much do they run (approx)
>>>
>>>phrostie
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>>>I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>>>>inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they work
>>>>like
>>>>a champ in Linux.
>>>>
>>>>jeff2
>>>>
>>>>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>>>trouble.
>>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>>>>>
>>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>>>
>>>>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>>>is there a trick?
>>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>>>
>>>>>do any of the new S3's work?
>>>>>
>>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>>>supported.
>>>>>
>>>>>what happened?
>>>>>
>>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>>>i thought that was fixed
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>>>
>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht
>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>>>trouble.
>>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>>>>>
>>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it doesn't
>>>>>work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>>>
>>>>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>>>is there a trick?
>>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>>>
>>>>>do any of the new S3's work?
>>>>>
>>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most supported.
>>>>>
>>>>>what happened?
>>>>>
>>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>>>i thought that was fixed
>>>>>--
>>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht
>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>
>>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>
>>>
>
>--
>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>
>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>
>

-- 
phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
 
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