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Subject: Re: [aclug-L] S3 blues
From: phrostie <phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 10:09:43 -0500
Reply-to: aclug-L@xxxxxxxxxxxx
there is a particular driver for the S2 Virge.

maybe i should try the generic S3   :-/

 
 

Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:

Is it a generic s3?

At 09:43 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:

>started with S3 trio 3D, now i have a S3 Virge /dx, both 4 meg.
>
>the Virge is better than the trio 3D.
>
>i may have to do like you say but first i'm going to try to make this work.
>
>i got better colors and a bigger screen from my old S3 trio 64  -2 meg card
>
>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>
>> Don't you think it would be good enough to just tell them at National
>that > the S3 is giving you trouble?
>
>i already did that once
>
>> You might even put on an incensed look
>
>did that
>
>> and
>> tell them what a piece of junk it was and how you'll only use Matrox from
>> now on.
>
>that's next on the list if this won't work
>
>> :-)  What card did you buy?
>>
>> jeff2
>> At 09:16 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>> >ouch,
>> >
>> >i'm still in the 50 dollar market.
>> >especially after everything i just spent on this box
>> >
>> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>> >
>> >> They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially
>> >> cheaper now.  My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no
>> >> retailer.  Command Computer might have a used one.  It was pretty
>> >popular.
>> >>
>> >> jeff2
>> >>
>> >> At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a
>card.
>> >> >
>> >> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>> >> >
>> >> >how much do they run (approx)
>> >> >
>> >> >phrostie
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>> >> >> inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they
>work > >> >like > a champ in Linux.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> jeff2
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >> >> >trouble.
>> >> >> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video
>card.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >> >> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >> >> >is there a trick?
>> >> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >do any of the new S3's work?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >> >> >supported.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >what happened?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time
>ago.
>> >> >> >i thought that was fixed
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >> >>
>>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >> >trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg
>> >video > >card.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >> >doesn't
>> >> >> >work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >> >> >is there a trick?
>> >> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >do any of the new S3's work?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >> >supported.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >what happened?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time
>ago.
>> >> >> >i thought that was fixed
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a
>card.
>> >> >
>> >> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>> >> >
>> >> >how much do they run (approx)
>> >> >
>> >> >phrostie
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>> >> >>I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>> >> >>inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they
>work > >like > >>a champ in Linux.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>jeff2
>> >> >>
>> >> >>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >> >>>trouble.
>> >> >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video
>card.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >> >>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >> >>>is there a trick?
>> >> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>do any of the new S3's work?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >> >>>supported.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>what happened?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time
>ago.
>> >> >>>i thought that was fixed
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>--
>> >> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >> >>>
>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >trouble. > >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg
>> >video card.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >doesn't
>> >> >>>work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >> >>>is there a trick?
>> >> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>do any of the new S3's work?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >supported.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>what happened?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time
>ago.
>> >> >>>i thought that was fixed
>> >> >>>--
>> >> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >> >
>> >> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >ouch,
>> >
>> >i'm still in the 50 dollar market.
>> >especially after everything i just spent on this box
>> >
>> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>> >>They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially
>> >>cheaper now.  My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no
>> >>retailer.  Command Computer might have a used one.  It was pretty
>popular.
>> >>
>> >>jeff2
>> >>
>> >>At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>> >>>
>> >>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>> >>>
>> >>>how much do they run (approx)
>> >>>
>> >>>phrostie
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>> >>>> inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they
>work > >>>like > a champ in Linux.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> jeff2
>> >>>>
>> >>>> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >>>> >trouble.
>> >>>> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video
>card.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >>>> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >>>> >is there a trick?
>> >>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >do any of the new S3's work?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >>>> >supported.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >what happened?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time
>ago.
>> >>>> >i thought that was fixed
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >--
>> >>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >>>> >
>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >>>trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg
>video > >>>card.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >>>doesn't
>> >>>> >work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >>>> >is there a trick?
>> >>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >do any of the new S3's work?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >>>supported.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >what happened?
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time
>ago.
>> >>>> >i thought that was fixed
>> >>>> >--
>> >>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>--
>> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>> >>>
>> >>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>> >>>
>> >>>how much do they run (approx)
>> >>>
>> >>>phrostie
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>> >>>>I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>> >>>>inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they
>work
>> >>>>like
>> >>>>a champ in Linux.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>jeff2
>> >>>>
>> >>>>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >>>>>trouble.
>> >>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>> >>>>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >>>>>is there a trick?
>> >>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>do any of the new S3's work?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>> >>>>>supported.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>what happened?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>> >>>>>i thought that was fixed
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>--
>> >>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >>>>>
>>
>>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>h
>t
>> >>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>> >>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>> >>>>>trouble.
>> >>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>> >>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>doesn't
>> >>>>>work as a S3, only SVGA.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>> >>>>>is there a trick?
>> >>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>do any of the new S3's work?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>supported.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>what happened?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>> >>>>>i thought that was fixed
>> >>>>>--
>> >>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>>
>>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>h
>t
>> >>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>--
>> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> >--
>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>> >
>> >http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>> >
>> >
>
>--
>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>
>
>
>
>
><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>started with S3 trio 3D, now i have a S3 Virge /dx, both 4 meg.
>
>the Virge is better than the trio 3D.
>
>i may have to do like you say but first i'm going to try to make this work.
>
>i got better colors and a bigger screen from my old S3 trio 64  -2 meg card
>
>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>Don't you think it would be good enough to just tell them at National that
>>the S3 is giving you trouble?
>i already did that once
>>You might even put on an incensed look
>did that
>>and
>>tell them what a piece of junk it was and how you'll only use Matrox from
>>now on.
>that's next on the list if this won't work
>>:-)  What card did you buy?
>>
>>jeff2
>>At 09:16 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>>ouch,
>>>
>>>i'm still in the 50 dollar market.
>>>especially after everything i just spent on this box
>>>
>>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>>
>>>> They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially
>>>> cheaper now.  My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no
>>>> retailer.  Command Computer might have a used one.  It was pretty
>>>popular.
>>>>
>>>> jeff2
>>>>
>>>> At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>>>> >
>>>> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>>>> >
>>>> >how much do they run (approx)
>>>> >
>>>> >phrostie
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>>>> >> inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they work
>>>> >like > a champ in Linux.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> jeff2
>>>> >>
>>>> >> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>> >> >trouble.
>>>> >> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>> >> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>> >> >is there a trick?
>>>> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >do any of the new S3's work?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>> >> >supported.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >what happened?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>> >> >i thought that was fixed
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >--
>>>> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>> >> > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> >> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>> >trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg
>>>video > >card.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>> >> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>> >doesn't
>>>> >> >work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>> >> >is there a trick?
>>>> >> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >do any of the new S3's work?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>> >supported.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >what happened?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>> >> >i thought that was fixed
>>>> >> >--
>>>> >> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>> >> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>> > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> >thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>>>> >
>>>> >i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>>>> >
>>>> >how much do they run (approx)
>>>> >
>>>> >phrostie
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>>> >>I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>>>> >>inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they work
>>>like > >>a champ in Linux.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>jeff2
>>>> >>
>>>> >>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>> >>>trouble.
>>>> >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>> >>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>> >>>is there a trick?
>>>> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>do any of the new S3's work?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>> >>>supported.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>what happened?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>> >>>i thought that was fixed
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>--
>>>> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>> >>>
>>>> <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht
>>>> tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>> >>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>trouble. > >>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg
>>>video card.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>> >>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>doesn't
>>>> >>>work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>> >>>is there a trick?
>>>> >>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>do any of the new S3's work?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>supported.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>what happened?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>> >>>i thought that was fixed
>>>> >>>--
>>>> >>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>> >>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht
>>>> tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >
>>>> >--
>>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>
>>>--
>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>ouch,
>>>
>>>i'm still in the 50 dollar market.
>>>especially after everything i just spent on this box
>>>
>>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>>>They were about $125 when they were new, but should be substantially
>>>>cheaper now.  My guess would be around $80 or so, but I'm no
>>>>retailer.  Command Computer might have a used one.  It was pretty popular.
>>>>
>>>>jeff2
>>>>
>>>>At 09:02 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>>>>>
>>>>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>>>>>
>>>>>how much do they run (approx)
>>>>>
>>>>>phrostie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>>>>>> inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they work
>>>>>like > a champ in Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jeff2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>>>> >trouble.
>>>>>> >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>>>> >doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>>>> >is there a trick?
>>>>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >do any of the new S3's work?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>>>> >supported.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >what happened?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>>>> >i thought that was fixed
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >--
>>>>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>
>>>>>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> ><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>> >i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>>>trouble. > >when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg
>>>>>video
>>>>>card.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>>>> >i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>> >work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>>>> >is there a trick?
>>>>>> >do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >do any of the new S3's work?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>>>supported.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >what happened?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>>>> >i thought that was fixed
>>>>>> >--
>>>>>> >phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> >Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>>>> >and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> <http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>
>>>>>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>>>
>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht
>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>thank you, i guess i should have asked before i decided to get a card.
>>>>>
>>>>>i'd be embarrassed to go back and exchange it again.
>>>>>
>>>>>how much do they run (approx)
>>>>>
>>>>>phrostie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jeffrey L. Hansen wrote:
>>>>>>I like Matrox.  The Millennium and Millennium II should be fairly
>>>>>>inexpensive these days.  Maybe National has one of those and they work
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>a champ in Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>jeff2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 08:30 AM 4/8/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>>>>>trouble.
>>>>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>>>>>doesn't work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>>>>>is there a trick?
>>>>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>do any of the new S3's work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>>>>>supported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>what happened?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>>>>>i thought that was fixed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><
>>>>>>>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht
>>>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
>>>>>>>i've been useing s3's since i started useing linux with never any
>>>>>>>trouble.
>>>>>>>when i started setting up my new machine i wanted a 4meg video card.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i got a S3 trio 3D.    didn't work.
>>>>>>>i went back to national and exchanged it for a S3 Virge/DX.    it
>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>work as a S3, only SVGA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is there something i need to upgrade?
>>>>>>>is there a trick?
>>>>>>>do i need to go back to tweeking the H&V sync's by hand?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>do any of the new S3's work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the XFree's site said that the S3 family of chips was the most
>>>>>>>supported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>what happened?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i remember hearing about problems with the S3 Virge a long time ago.
>>>>>>>i thought that was fixed
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><
>>>>>>>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht
>>>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html>ht
>>>>>tp://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>>>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>>>
>>> http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>>>
>>>
>
>--
>phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Oh I've slipped the surly bonds of dos
>and danced the skies on LINUX silvered wings.
>
>http://www.cottagesoft.com/~phrostie/cad-tastrafy/cad-tastrafy.html
>
>

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