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Subject: Re: [aclug-L] Linux on store shelves
From: jeffrey.hansen@xxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1999 16:57:01 -0500
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Rabble rouser!  :-)




phrostie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on 03/20/99 08:34:38 AM

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hey john what the record for the thread with the most traffic?

when this one started i thought it was harmless enough.


phrostie


John Goerzen wrote:

> Jonathan Hall <jonhall@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>
> > As far as what business practices I don't agree with... I answered that
> > largely in the mail I just sent to the list about 5 minutes ago.  But
in a
> > nutshell, I don't like that they contract with other companies to do
> > development.  I think it's GREAT that other companies are doing
>
> For instance?
>
> > development, but I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for them
to > > contract with a specific Linux distribution developer.  And by
signing > > those contracts, I think Red Hat is demonstrating a high profit
motive, > > rather than a humanitarian motive (they are a commercial
entity, you can't > > completely blame them).
>
> I do hold them responsible for a number of things, but not the same
> things you are identifying, I guess.
>
> > I guess, as far as a company goes, Red Hat isn't bad.  I just don't
like > > the idea of commercially developed Linux distributions.  I would
have the > > same complaints about Caldera OpenLinux, etc... they just
aren't as big,
> > so haven't had as many other companies offer to sign cooperative
> > development contracts with them....
>
> Caldera is FAR more insidious in many respects.  They systematically
> violate GPL and other licenses, for instance.
>
> What's wrong with a company developing it?  You do realize that a
> number of companies help Debian with development, right?  If they're
> writing GPL software, what's the matter?
>
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hey john what the record for the thread with the most traffic?
<P>when this one started i thought it was harmless enough.
<BR>&nbsp;
<P>phrostie
<BR>&nbsp;
<P>John Goerzen wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Jonathan Hall &lt;jonhall@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
<P>> As far as what business practices I don't agree with... I answered
that
<BR>> largely in the mail I just sent to the list about 5 minutes
ago.&nbsp;
But in a
<BR>> nutshell, I don't like that they contract with other companies to
do
<BR>> development.&nbsp; I think it's GREAT that other companies are doing
<P>For instance?
<P>> development, but I don't think it's in anyone's best interest for
them to
<BR>> contract with a specific Linux distribution developer.&nbsp; And
by signing
<BR>> those contracts, I think Red Hat is demonstrating a high profit
motive,
<BR>> rather than a humanitarian motive (they are a commercial entity,
you can't
<BR>> completely blame them).
<P>I do hold them responsible for a number of things, but not the same
<BR>things you are identifying, I guess.
<P>> I guess, as far as a company goes, Red Hat isn't bad.&nbsp; I just
don't like
<BR>> the idea of commercially developed Linux distributions.&nbsp; I would
have the
<BR>> same complaints about Caldera OpenLinux, etc... they just aren't
as big,
<BR>> so haven't had as many other companies offer to sign cooperative
<BR>> development contracts with them....
<P>Caldera is FAR more insidious in many respects.&nbsp; They
systematically <BR>violate GPL and other licenses, for instance.
<P>What's wrong with a company developing it?&nbsp; You do realize that
a
<BR>number of companies help Debian with development, right?&nbsp; If
they're <BR>writing GPL software, what's the matter?
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