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Subject: Re: [aclug-L] ISPs?
From: John Reinke <ufotofu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 01:49:38 -0600
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Okay, what I meant was the total outgoing capacity of Wichita for MM Cable
is a T1's worth, whereas the TOTAL incoming capacity allowed would be
greater than that. In other words, they would limit outgoing even more than
incoming, but I can't imagine even THEY would expect to support an entire
city the size of Wichita with only a measly T1. I don't remember for sure,
and I'm not even sure where I read it, so take what I was saying with a
grain of salt.

It doesn't really matter, since I live in Newton and you in Goessel anyway.
We won't be seeing this service for another twenty years at this rate.
ADSL, on the other hand, could be a "good thing" (tm).

I believe this topic originated with someone looking for a good ISP (other
than SouthWind), not vapor services. I've not heard of any, but I've talked
to a few unhappy former Feist customers, so I wouldn't recommend them.

john

>Unless I'm unaware of something, T1's are bidirectional... If they have an
>outgoing T1, what sort of incoming connection would they have?  Perhaps a
>satelite feed of somesort?
>
>
>On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, John Reinke wrote:
>
>> I believe that all of Wichita would be sharing one *outgoing* T1, but yes,
>> it doesn't sound like it will be nearly as fast as they want you to
>> believe. Hype is everything. I'm sure they plan an NT bottleneck on top of
>> everything else, too. The only time I went to their web site, I got a few
>> Frontpage errors...
>>
>> john
>>
>> >On Tue, 16 Mar 1999, Bob Deep wrote:
>> >
>> >> Netcom but limited to 33.6
>> >>
>> >> I'm awaiting Cablevision's starting their services.. For what?  $25 a
>> >> month?
>> >
>> >Cablevision will be charging, I believe, $40/month.  But keep in mind...
>> >they will be limiting bandwidth to 128k per person...  Not to mention the
>> >fact that the entire city of Wichita will be fed by a single T1
>> >(1.54mbits).  Things will be DOG SSSSLLLLOOOOWWWW.  No more than 12 people
>> >in the entire city will be able to get 128k throughput simultaneously.  If
>> >you have 100 doing a file transfer at the same time, each person gets only
>> >15.4kbps (barely faster than a 14.4 modem).
>> >
>> >
>> >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> >  Jonathan Hall  *  jonhall@xxxxxxxxxxxx  *  PGP public key available
>> > Systems Admin, Future Internet Services; Goessel, KS * (316) 367-2487
>> >         http://www.futureks.net  *  PGP Key ID: FE 00 FD 51
>> >         -=  Running Debian GNU/Linux 2.0, kernel 2.0.36  =-
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