[linux-help] Re: Redhat RPM help

[Bruce Bales <bbales@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jesse,
I decided (before I saw this last message of yours) that I was going to have to 
install KDE or Gnome to get everything I needed.  Tried
twice to get it on the 340 M hard drive and it wasn't big enough.  So I swapped 
in a 1.7 G hard drive in and loaded RH there.

While trying to get more space, I combined my / and /home partitions.  This 
destroyed the system on the disk and I never got a system back
on it.  I am right now trying to put an X system on it in another computer, but 
I got "not enough disk space," three times, so far.

Oops!  Just now it took the latest try and is installing.  This time I hope I 
included enough that it might have window maker.  I hope : ^
)  It's just a learning experience, I guess.

I very much appreciate all the help.  Hope to see you at a meeting some day,

Many thanks,
bruce

"gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)" wrote:

> ok, what's probably happened is that you've got X installed, the X servers
> installed, but no X fonts...  type 'rpm -qa | grep XF' and e-mail the
> results back here..  the key package we're looking for here is the
> XFree86-75dpi-fonts package...  i'm actually surprised RPM let you install
> some of the packages w/o the others... usually the dependancies do a
> better job of making sure you've got all you need...  hopefully this will
> be the last package! : ^ )
>
> gLaNDix
>
> <<< lloydix.2y.net FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Thu Jul 5 06:16:31 CDT 2001 
> glandix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LLOYDIX >>>
>
> On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Bruce Bales wrote:
>
> >
> > Thanks again, Jesse and Bob,
> > Bob - I had previously run winmaker.inst.
> > What I didn't have was startx.  I had also previously rpm'd XFree86 ... 
> > SVGA and ... VGA16, but now I have added
> > XFree86-3.3.6-20...RPM and that installed startx to a bin directory.
> >
> > Now, running startx gives me pages of text ending with "Fatal server error 
> > - couldn't open default font fixed"
> >
> > After a while with Google, I found xfs being installed by one of the RH 
> > startup files, /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S90xfs.  Ran "S90xfs status"
> > and it says "xfs (pid494) is running .
> >
> > Out of ideas again,
> > bruce
> >
> > "gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)" wrote:
> >
> > > startx is the way to start x... : ^ )  type 'echo $PATH' and make sure
> > > /usr/X11R6/bin is listed, otherwise bash or whatever shell you're using
> > > won't be able to find the startx script...  also, do a 'locate startx' to
> > > double-check that startx is installed...  if it's not, you will probably
> > > have to reinstall X...
> > >
> > > gLaNDix
> > >
> > > <<< lloydix.2y.net FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Thu Jul 5 06:16:31 CDT 2001 
> > > glandix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LLOYDIX >>>
> > >
> > > On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Bruce Bales wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I was trying to run wmaker from the command line.  I made the 
> > > > change to .xinitrc and still get the same.  Full text is:
> > > >     wmaker warning: Xserver doesn't support locale
> > > >     wmaker warning: cannot set locale modifiers
> > > >     wmaker Fatal error: could not open display ""
> > > >
> > > > If I run .xinitrc, I get the same as running wmaker.
> > > >
> > > > I tried startx and got   "command not found"
> > > >
> > > > I looked at startx on another (gnome/kde) machine, it is 1430 bytes of 
> > > > bash that I don't understand.
> > > >
> > > > stumped,
> > > > bruce
> > > >
> > > > "gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ok, i'm assuming you ran wmaker from the commandline...  what you 
> > > > > need to
> > > > > do instead is edit your ~/.xinitrc or ~/.xsession file and add the 
> > > > > line:
> > > > >
> > > > > exec /usr/local/bin/wmaker
> > > > >
> > > > > where "/usr/local/bin" should be replaced w/ the path to wherever 
> > > > > wmaker
> > > > > resides (find out by 'which wmaker').  then, you can safely comment 
> > > > > out
> > > > > (add a "#" at the beginning) any other lines starting w/ "exec"...
> > > > >
> > > > > good luck!
> > > > > gLaNDix
> > > > >
> > > > > <<< lloydix.2y.net FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Thu Jul 5 06:16:31 CDT 
> > > > > 2001 glandix@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LLOYDIX >>>
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Bruce Bales wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Some progress.  I went to rpmfind.net as Jesse suggested and 
> > > > > > eventually found and
> > > > > > RPMed 17 required RPM files from the cdrom.  The final one was 
> > > > > > WindowMaker.  I then
> > > > > > ran wmaker.inst.  It installed, but something is still missing.  
> > > > > > wmaker still says
> > > > > > "fatal error - could not open display."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All the docs say windowmaker is a window manager and as such I 
> > > > > > assume there must be
> > > > > > an Xwindows program to manage.  Do I have to install KDE or Gnome 
> > > > > > to use
> > > > > > windowmaker?  Or is there something smaller than KDE or Gnome?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't have a lot of space left on the 340MB disk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bruce
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "gLaNDix (Jesse Kaufman)" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The prereq's rpm (the program) lists when you try to 'rpm -ivh
> > > > > > > whatever.rpm' are usually files within another package (rpm) that 
> > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > required to install the packge in question...  for instance, 
> > > > > > > Window Maker
> > > > > > > is dependant on libPropList...  rather than saying "Window Maker 
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > dependant on libPropList-0.8.0-i386.rpm" (i just made up the 
> > > > > > > version,
> > > > > > > since i'm not sure of the recent release), it will most likely 
> > > > > > > say that
> > > > > > > WM is dependant on libPropList.so.2 or something a little more 
> > > > > > > abstract
> > > > > > > on more complex libraries...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > the easiest thing to do to get the RPMs that the prereq's are 
> > > > > > > included in
> > > > > > > is searching on rpmfind.net for "libPropList.so.2" or whatever it 
> > > > > > > lists...
> > > > > > > it should find the .rpm file you need to download and install...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > you also might want to search on freshmeat.net for rpm or gnorpm 
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > will find some great GUI programs for installing RPMs...  works 
> > > > > > > very well,
> > > > > > > and some (like RPMDrak in Mandrake GNU/Linux) will actually tell 
> > > > > > > you which
> > > > > > > rpms are required and offere to download/install them for you...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope this helps...  feel free to ask again if this doesn't clarify
> > > > > > > anything... it's been quite a while since i've used RH and i've 
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > recently switched to FreeBSD, so I hope I didn't get my wires 
> > > > > > > crossed when
> > > > > > > replying! : ^ )
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > gLaNDix
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Bruce Bales wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I need help on an RPM problem.
> > > > > > > > I am trying to rpm WindowMaker into a small system I have 
> > > > > > > > installed RH 6.2 on.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > rpm -ivh WindowMaker provides me with a list of prerequisites - 
> > > > > > > > files that
> > > > > > > > windowmaker needs - starting with wmconfig (which is an rpm 
> > > > > > > > file) and the rest
> > > > > > > > of them lib*.so.0 files like libaudiofile.so.0 and libesd.so.0.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Running rpm -ivh wmconfig gives me anothe list of lib*.so.0 
> > > > > > > > files.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Since these files are not rpm files, I can't install them using 
> > > > > > > > rpm.  I have
> > > > > > > > copied them from the cdrom to various places on the disk and 
> > > > > > > > rpm -ivh
> > > > > > > > WindowMaker still gives me the same list of files needed.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I looked at another RH 6.2 system and copied some of the files 
> > > > > > > > to the location
> > > > > > > > of those with the same name - no good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I copied some to a directory that is in my PATH, thinking 
> > > > > > > > redhat would look
> > > > > > > > there - no good.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Where can I copy these files to such that redhat can find them 
> > > > > > > > and complete the
> > > > > > > > install?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > > > > bruce
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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