[gopher] Re: Overbite "1.1" -- with Firefox 2.0 support

["Peter Tynan" <happy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

2008/6/9 Cameron Kaiser <spectre@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> I'm using it with Iceweasel 2.0.0.14 (Debian version of FireFox).
>> Visually it is a great improvement on the standard Iceweasel/FireFox
>> rendering of gopher pages, as to the lack of links I'd vote to keep
>> the text plain - If the document authors had wanted hyper-links they
>> would of used a format other than plain text wouldn't they?
>
> This is kind of the same rationale I had in mind when I intentionally did
> not use the standard Mozilla converter (and I don't like the way the Mozilla
> code does linkification anyway). Still, there are conveniences of it and
> Mate points out one, so it was just something for the list's consideration.
> It would also allow wrapping the plain text in the standard "navigation"
> interface, including the root-menu icon, which does have advantages for the
> user. I'll keep on surveying the list, but right now the opinion seems to
> be to let it ride for the moment.
>
> I am also considering extending the visual interface so that gopher menus
> hosted on a different server than the one the user is accessing are set
> off in some way, like italics, perhaps.
>
>> Question: When can we start talking in public about this (as I for one
>> have a few questions I'd like to put to the Debian Iceweasel team
>> about Overbite)?
>
> I'd like a final word on whether I can get the JS backported into Core first
> (and then it should "just appear" in Iceweasel as well -- though I am happy
> to hear that the add-on "just works" with it and will put this in the notes).
> Assuming the answer is no, which admittedly it probably will be, then I'll
> press for it to be put in the release notes and then "go public." This will
> probably happen when Firefox 3 final is released. At that point, go for it.
> For now, I want to be strategic with public release :)
>
> From a mechanics and licensing view, though, Debian should have no concerns
> about Overbite since it is tri-license.
>

That's pretty much the answer I was expecting. If you fail to get the
JS backported into Core of FireFox I'm hoping the Debian Iceweasel
team will have a more enlightened view (particularly if other Debian
users on this list help with the persuasion/education of the Debian
developers).