[Freeciv-Dev] Re: (PR#4100) Transitive treaties under alliance

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On Mon, Apr 28, 2003 at 12:58:15PM -0700, Per I. Mathisen wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, ChrisK@xxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > I'm starting to wonder whether this situation is in fact a bug. Should 
> > > > it
> > > > really be possible to declare war on an ally's ally?
> > >
> > > No.
> > >
> > > > Shouldn't a
> > > > declaration of war on a player automatically lead to its allies also
> > > > declaring war on you?
> > >
> > > Yes.
> ...
> > I think alliances have to be transitive. War state is not.
> >
> > So make an alliance is only allowed when all allies of A are at least
> > neutral with all allies of B. When the alliance actually happens, all allies
> > of A and B become allied to each other.
> >
> > When A cancels an alliance with B, all his other alliances are cancelled,
> > too.
> 
> What if allied(A, B) and allied(C, D), and then war(A, C) and peace(A, D)
> while war(B, D) and peace(B, C)? You don't get stacking problems, but it
> is still pretty schizophrenic.
> 
> To sum up:
> 
> I see five different solutions:
> 1) Keep the present approach.
> 2) Make only alliances transitive.
> 3) Make both war and alliance transitive when in alliance.
> 4) Make war, ceasefire and alliance transitive when in alliance.
> 5) Make all treaties transitive when in alliance.

I think for AI a stricter rule is necessary than for players. 

USA allied with Germany, USA at war with Irak -> Germany at war with
Irak? No

And think there are cases where nations were at war each other. A with
B and both were allied with C.

I would solve the invading city with allied transport problem with a
check like for paratroops. When entering a city and there are is a unit
which is at least allied with the city, the units on transport die. Would
go to prison.
 
Thomas
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