[aclug-L] Re: ACLUG mailing list future

["Michael Holmes" <aerospaced@xxxxxxx>]

Yes I am still here in the background.  I, just from reading your post,
would vote for the google.  I have been buried between work and finishing my
MIS degree.  I very much want to see the list to live.  Everyone will be
proud that since I've taken over, we have only installed linux servers!  I
am taking over the world one server at a time!! :-)

Mike Holmes

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From: discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxx] On
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Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:47 PM
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Subject: [aclug-L] Re: ACLUG mailing list future

So you'll know someone is still out here, I have no intelligent input on
which 
service to choose, but I hope the list can be continued.
bruce

On Wednesday 12 August 2009 16:35:41 John Goerzen wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> The mailing list manager I use to host these lists, Ecartis, has been
> abandoned upstream for a few years and was removed from Debian back in
> May.  This has prompted me to do some evaluation of alternatives.
>
> The two main options that I'm considering are Google Groups and Mailman.
>  Mailman would run on my server; Google Groups is obviously a Google
> service.
>
> Some pluses and minuses of each:
>
> Google Groups:
>
> * Plus: Has an integrated web forum for those that prefer that
>
> * Plus: Nice, searchable, integrated archives
>
> * Plus: Can easily designate whomever we'd like to be full admins
>
> * Minus: At Google's mercy regarding UI changes
>
> * Minus: At Google's mercy to keep the service up
>
> * Minus: Has the basic features, but not many advanced ones.  Probably
> enough for us though.
>
> * Minus: No programmatic interface to the archives; would maintain the
> gmane.org mirror to keep mbox archives available.
>
> Mailman:
>
> * Plus: Exceptionally configurable.
>
> * Minus: Built in archives are essentially what's on lists.complete.org
> now.  In other words, crappy.  Would move archives to gmane.org (and
> possibly also to an archive-only Google Group)
>
> * Minus: No posting from the web
>
> * Minus: Rely on me to keep the service up.
>
> * Plus: Archives available (to me) in mbox format for transitions.
>
> My initial inclination is to suggest Google Groups, but the point of
> this message is to gather feedback.  In either case, subscriber lists
> could be migrated, and the @aclug.org addresses could forward to the new
> place for a time.
>
> The second question relates to which ACLUG lists to keep.  There are 7
> ACLUG lists visible at lists.complete.org right now.  Of those, there
> are only two that have seen posts this year: this one and announce, and
> announce hasn't see a post since January.  My suggestion would be to
> move only this list over, unless people intend to start using announce
> again.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -- John
>
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